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> But to be frank, I think he's lost something much more important.

Please continue.

> he's already demonstrated he's capable of flourishing when risks are present.

That is an excellent point.

> who do you think is legitimately trying to establish order?

I'm not sure how to go about answering this, I think the space is as crowded as its going to be because people who are more competent push out and make irrelevant people who are less relevant.

> It seems like the majority of the western ruling class are a bunch of old people merely trying to have a bit of fun before they die.

Personally I cannot think of anything more boring than a meeting of the EU Parliament, the UN, US Congress, or the CCP.




> Please continue.

I think that a loss in purpose is worse than a loss in material wealth. I'm a scrappy student working on a startup I believe in, and I would not trade places with the successful entrepreneur.

I have fun climbing mountains. So does he. I have plenty of mountains to climb, while he's surrounded by the fog and believes he has no other mountains to climb. Ergo, I'm having fun while he believes he'll never have fun again.

> That is an excellent point.

Thank you.

> Personally I cannot think of anything more boring than a meeting of the EU Parliament, the UN, US Congress, or the CCP.

I never stated they have good taste :P

In all seriousness, I wouldn't really consider politicians the ruling class. Now, I'm not an expert on this topic, but I'd wager that the billionaire entrepreneurs have more power than the US senators being paid a measly $200K/year. Suppose they have a little side-hustle and make 1M/year; that's still peanuts.


> I think that a loss in purpose is worse than a loss in material wealth.

I agree and thank you for sharing your perspective.

> In all seriousness, I wouldn't really consider politicians the ruling class. Now, I'm not an expert on this topic, but I'd wager that the billionaire entrepreneurs have more power than the US senators being paid a measly $200K/year. Suppose they have a little side-hustle and make 1M/year; that's still peanuts.

Thats true but they are part of a powerful decision making body. The people who tell them what to do are a more exclusive group. And some senators somehow end up worth $100mm, that money comes from somewhere and they don't make it by accident.


> I agree and thank you for sharing your perspective.

You're welcome

> The people who tell them what to do are a more exclusive group.

That's what I consider the ruling class. Based on my rudimentary observations, I'm unsure whether such people truly want to impose some sort of order, or are just striving to maximize their quarterly revenue. Of course, there are exceptions like the CCP.

I'm a bit sleepy so I will be going to bed, good night o/

It was nice talking to you




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