Cool, from the self web page -- "The project continued at Sun Microsystems Laboratories until 1995, where it benefited from the efforts of Randall B. Smith, Mario Wolczko, John Maloney, and Lars Bak."
Java was released in March of 1995, about 1/3 of the original Java group left after the 1.0 release (not in a small part because of Sun's attitude). I made the mistake when I went to work at Google of disparaging Self (which Urs Hoezle had worked on and was my boss's boss, oops!) But much of the original Java team had ended up there so it was kind of a fun to catch up.
So when you visited Craig at Stanford did you get along with him?
Seems like 30 years ago. (Because it was?) He was busy, I was an interruption. But he was gracious abt it. I recall I was a lot more interested in tail-call elimination, at the time, than he was.
Self was seminal in two ways: prototypes instead of classes influenced Javascript, and code splitting presaged perhaps the most important JIT technique.
We might have been better off today if Eich had just picked up Self instead of throwing together Javascript. But honestly I don't know either well enough to say.
Java was released in March of 1995, about 1/3 of the original Java group left after the 1.0 release (not in a small part because of Sun's attitude). I made the mistake when I went to work at Google of disparaging Self (which Urs Hoezle had worked on and was my boss's boss, oops!) But much of the original Java team had ended up there so it was kind of a fun to catch up.
So when you visited Craig at Stanford did you get along with him?