On: If Not SPAs, What?

[bgdkbtv]

I haven't built anything that requires significant performance tweaking other than some caching and SQL optimisations. Maybe PHP 8 will bring an even better performance when it gets released

> HP roles typically pay 20% less

Yeah, true. Hence why I am a React dev professionally

[cutler → bgdkbtv]

I'm not saying any of Django, Rails or Laravel are fast compared with Node, ASP.Net or Spring but what surprised me was how PHP 7, which is a lot faster than Ruby or Python, somehow managed to fall behind when Laravel was added into the mix. It's as if PHP's performance gains only really apply to raw PHP or lightweight frameworks.

[mercer → cutler]

That's surprising to hear. Do you have any links that go into this (or show benchmarks)? I generally avoid PHP, but I've been thinking of looking into Laravel for when I do need to use PHP.

[cutler → mercer]

Techempower benchmarks.