On: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

[shp0ngle]

the thing with web apps is - it's slow, but it is the Java's original goal from the 90s "write once, run everywhere" actually realized. Plus, built-in collaborativeness and automatic updates. And, easier to get developers.

Native is nice, native is fast, and it will have its place (compare how bad is Google Meet compared to Zoom with respect to CPU/RAM), but web is becoming "good enough".

[arrayjumper → shp0ngle]

> Native is nice, native is fast

Only if you are using a Mac. On linux, the zoom client is neither fast nor (in my admittedly slightly subjective opinion) nice.

[WolfRazu → arrayjumper]

Zoom is Electron isn't it? That's not native.

[shp0ngle → WolfRazu]

No, it's native. At least on Mac.

edit: judging by `strings`, it's Objective C/Cocoa app on Mac. As native as it can be. No idea on Linux.

[Johan-bjareholt → shp0ngle]

It's Electron on Linux and what's being discussed is that it's slow on Linux. Nobody refuted that it's slow on macOS, it was even stated.

[shp0ngle → Johan-bjareholt]

I will need to check if you’re right.

edit

just judged on dependencies of the deb package, it looks like a native app. But, I will check the actual app.

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installi...

[monsieurbanana → arrayjumper]

That's an interesting anecdote, as I've only used zoom on linux, but not really related to what you quoted.

[arrayjumper → monsieurbanana]

Interesting. I'm curious what machine spec you're on. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 on an dell laptop (XPS 7590 with an i9 processor, 32gb ram, discrete Nvidia graphics card).

I see my processor spin up to 90% utilization whenever I do a zoom call.

[andrekandre → shp0ngle]

> write once, run everywhere

thats rarely true for complex web apps... (doubly true if your using firefox)