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Both Google and Apple control the browser on their mobile OS through tie in (having Chrome as default is mandatory if you want to ship Android - Apple doesn't allow other browser).

Both have ensured that's the actual experience of using web app remain terrible on their platform.

The mobile market is not at all a competitive market and it's really starting to show.




> Both Google and Apple control the browser on their mobile OS through tie in (having Chrome as default is mandatory if you want to ship Android - Apple doesn't allow other browser).

This is not true at all - e.g. Samsung ships their own browser as default on all their devices.


> This is not true at all

Come on, not true at all ?

Admittedly Samsung might be able to ship with their browser as default. I don't remember what browser was the main one when I bought my last phone. They most definitely have to have Chrome installed (and probably as the system web view) like the rest of the Google apps if they want to ship with the Play Store.

I don't think it significantly impacts my main point.


Yes, it has to be installed, but there's a world of difference between having do be default like Safari on iOS and being present while another browser is the default.


While Google mandated their apps, AFAIK Chrome wasn't one of them. My Note 1 has plenty of google garbage, but no chrome.


If you really mean a Note 1, it came out before Google started that requirement in 2012. If you mean a Note 10, those came out after Google announced they would stop the requirement in 2018 in reaction to the EU antitrust case (which specifically called out the enforced Chrome bundling as one of the things being punished)


I really did mean Note 1, and I did not know of these details. Thanks for the clarification.


Are you still using that Note 1? I had one for a long time too, but at some point gave up on it. Curious if it's still viable today - Custom ROM or anything?




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