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> opposition parties are not "unelected".

unelected to government.

> , who you claim control the BBC and print media, since despite specifically referring to "Labour" you said you don't mean it's Labour.

I didn't use a present tense. Corbyn et al had a proposal to take control of editorial departments of major newspapers and tv media to set the agenda.

Your difficulty in reading comprehension is hardly relevant to the point




> I didn't use a present tense. Corbyn et al had a proposal to take control

You didn't say Labour proposed to "take control", you said Labour proposed "shills" "took control". Took.

Why you're continually trying to pretend other people can't read what you wrote, when it's there[0] for anyone to see, is baffling.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24587997


In the UK we don't elect any members of our government, so that seems a redundant statement.


However, conventionally the Prime Minister will be chosen from the ranks of elected Members of the Commons, and all the Great Officers (the senior cabinet posts like Foreign Secretary or Chancellor) will likewise be MPs. So every Prime Minister in living memory was the elected MP for their constituents.

Since it's only a convention the Commons certainly could just decide not to do this, and of course there isn't anybody to stop them - but that would be extraordinary. It hasn't happened at all in the modern era.

I guess the most plausible way it could arise now is if there isn't any majority in the Commons after an election, a conventional senior-junior coalition partnership in which the larger party gets PM but the smaller party gets some other roles is impossible for some reason, and the "obvious" compromise centrist politician has meanwhile been elevated to the Lords.

Nothing in the existing rules actually forbids a Lord being PM, it would just be incredibly inconvenient (the Commons hold the PM to account not the Lords so...) and look undemocratic, so I guess in that case they might decide the way forward is we put this chap in place as caretaker, his executive gets us out of whatever immediate hole we're in, and then hold fresh elections. If there is a decent majority in the Commons for that idea, it's enough to make it happen.


Government in UK political and legal terminology ostensibly refers to the formation called the cabinet and the prime minister. If you do not win a general election you cannot form a government. Therefore you lose the GE you are not elected to government


> If you do not win a general election you cannot form a government.

On the contrary. All you need to form a government is some way to get a majority for Confidence, and all you'd need to make that a working government is Confidence and Supply. That's all Theresa May had, she did not win the election but she had DUP promises to vote for her on the question of confidence and where necessary for supply, and that was enough to limp on for quite some time.


The last election the second party lost by a landslide, they have no opportunity to form a government.


Of the last 4 Prime Minsters (Johnson, May, Cameron, Brown) of the UK, none of them became prime minister by heading a party who won a majority of seats at an election -- the last person to do that was Tony Blair in 1997. Before then it was Margaret Thatcher in 1979. It's an exception, rather than the rule.

Cameron did win a plurarity of seats in 2010, but his 36% of the vote wasn't enough on it's own.

It's exceedingly likely the next Prime Minister will equally be appointed without a public vote.




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