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[dependenttypes]

One of the goals for CK3 was to dumb CK2 down in order to reach a wider audience. I honestly would not describe any of the newer Paradox games as complex (yes, even Stellaris).

[unionpivo → dependenttypes]

CK3 has more systems out of the box than CK2 when it came out.

CK3 just just looks simpler because its presented in a lot better/cleaner way. (and the fact, that CK2 wasn't as complicated as EU4)

[blaser-waffle → unionpivo]

Hey don't forget Vicky II, which is mostly a complex spreadsheet simulator with sliders and a map.

[unionpivo → blaser-waffle]

My friend, let me introduce you to a game called Aurora 4x

here is some gameplay[1][2] and forum where development happens [3] . There is c# revrite comming ...

  [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqBYDSno7w
  [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77mvpSvVu10
  [3]http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php

[monadgonad → dependenttypes]

Have you played CK3? It's definitely not dumbed down.

[mcv → dependenttypes]

I find it hard to imagine a Paradox game that could not be described as complex. Maybe some are not quite as complex as others, but they're definitely complex. Especially compared to any version of Civilization.

[hollandheese → dependenttypes]

Maybe not, but they're vastly more complex than any Civilization game has been.