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Of course they do. So advise the 1% that's at risk to quarantine until we get a vaccine.



This in unrealistic Sweden tried that and failed. It still imposed some limitations though, yet they have very large death rate. Besides, no one really know how susceptible he or she is to the disease; there are hundreds of examples of sickly 100+ old people having light cold and young seemingly healthy 35 y old people dying. Even more importantly, the diseases seems to have long term consequences even for the healthier people.


They tried that in Sweden and ended up killing a bunch of people.


Assuming an effective vaccine doesn't come anytime soon, which thusfar seems a safe assumption, other countries will have many deaths as well, just spread out more over the coming months/year[s?]. A flattened curve has the same area under it.


Not the same 'died because of insufficient facilities' curve, not at all. Flattening is so healthcare capacity is not exceeded. Not-flattening has dire consequence, far beyond 'the same area under the curve'. Its the peaks of the curve that trigger the consequences.


> Flattening is so healthcare capacity is not exceeded.

Sweden avoided that scenario. Their system was strained but did not collapse. They're still on track to have the same area under their curve.

> The pandemic has put the Swedish healthcare system under severe strain, with tens of thousands of operations having been postponed. Initially, Swedish hospitals and other facilities reported a shortage of personal protective equipment. At the start of the pandemic, concerns were made that Swedish hospitals wouldn't have enough capacity to treat all who could become ill with the disease, especially in regard to those needing intensive care. Swedish hospitals were eventually able to double the number of intensive care beds in a few weeks, and the maximum capacity was never exceeded.

Furthermore while their number of cases per day has been growing rapidly, the number of ICU hospitalizations per day and deaths per day have both been falling since April. Reports of Sweden's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden

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> Compared to other Scandinavian nations, Sweden has experienced a much higher number of COVID-19 deaths; eight times that of Denmark and 19 times higher than Norway, despite being only twice those nations' populations

Yes, that's exactly what you'd expect from a country that doesn't flatten their curve. A country that doesn't flatten their curve will have more deaths up front, but that doesn't mean they'll have more deaths in total when all is said and done.


> Reports of Sweden's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Reports of Sweden's success are likely premature, though. The world has a long way left to go.


I don't think it's premature to say Sweden has been successful. It may not be over yet, but this trend is pretty clear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#De...


The US chart of infections looked like that a few weeks back; things change quickly, especially if people get to thinking they're done. A second wave in Sweden (and elsewhere) would hardly be surprising.


From wiki article

> Compared to other Scandinavian nations, Sweden has experienced a much higher number of COVID-19 deaths; eight times that of Denmark and 19 times higher than Norway, despite being only twice those nations' populations


I'm glad for them. What works in Sweden, may not work the same elsewhere.




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