If you choose to opt out of email then you also choose to opt out of email support and being able to reset passwords via email. Two factor auth solutions let you store a one time recovery code for example that you write down or store somewhere safe, that's one option if you care to support it but I wouldn't mind losing the email only features you mentioned either.
> If you choose to opt out of email then you also choose to opt out of email support and being able to reset passwords via email.
And the users will get mad and blame the service provider. That said users are dumb/wrong or whatever is irrelevant, what matters to the business is that they're pissing off users and getting a bad reputation. Thus, requiring emails from the user is entirely rational and in fact is a good business practice.
No, making it a default makes sense. Users will not get mad if they get a warning telling them email support will no longer be possible. Alternatively you can opt with giving them a recovery code by which they can contact support or with which email will be enabled for an account when the user forgets their password. The only time you can't turn on email on your account is if you lose the password. Email is not secure, a user that has their login compromised is very likely to also have their email compromised. Moreover, if their email is compromised this completely silly dependence on email will get their account on your site compromised as well so you should be using a non-email means of authenticating users for support or account recovery!!
Email must die. No buts or ifs. It must die. You are a poor or ignorant engineer and architect if you build new things that depend on email in 2020.
If you give the most mediocre hacker 100 emails of users of your service that depends on email for account security, I am confident he/she will compromise at least a 3rd of accounts.
>Alternatively you can opt with giving them a recovery code by which they can contact support or with which email will be enabled for an account when the user forgets their password.
This is absurd, you either have an extremely idealistic view of the abilities of users or your thinking is warped by your extreme hatred towards a ubiquitous protocol.
What do you recommend to replace long form correspondence online? I cannot see anything that can replace it currently. Especially not in corporate, nothing beats email.
Thanks for sharing, I'm working on a new convo site called sqwok.im and I've debated whether to ask for email. I ended up with it being an optional field at sign up that's only used to help with account recovery/notifications. Having the ability to generate an account recovery token sounds like a cool idea! You can still chat on the site with only a username/password.
Thanks for sharing as well. I have signed up and I will try to promote your service. Thank you for listening to users. I hope we see more services like this, we've lost too much of the good experience of the old internet.
Thank you! I appreciate you checking it out, I'm @guac. I agree that we've lost the aesthetic of the old net and that we need more choices when it comes to these types of things. I grew up chatting on irc, aim, icq, etc and have fond memories of those times. A neat aspect of current technology is that we can build similar experiences that are now accessible to everyone w/o e.g. "download and install the client, configure the server" (most ppl have no idea what you're talking about). The goal is to create a simple, frictionless, open chat site that lets ppl talk about news/current events/etc with no hassle. Admittedly I'm a news junkie and started building this because I want to use it myself!
hey badrabbit, was thinking some more, I'm interested to know what other aspects of "the old internet" you are missing? feel free to reply or email me guac@sqwok.im, cheers!
