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You missed the biggest one of all, he doesn’t have to work at all anymore. Giving him all his time back, which is priceless.

But, they also become what they likely spent their life hating: a non-worker. Worse yet, they get the added distinction of becoming a leech on the human network, gaining further wealth through usury. The welfare recipient at least puts all the money they’re handed back into the economy. The capitalists can never claim that, and mostly horde.

The OP is correct in that materially, the capitalist and the worker are largely equals. We all use the same phones, TVs and computers now. When I was a kid in the 80s a car phone was something only in movies, I never actually saw one.




I didn't miss it, it was the first thing I said.

> Giving him all his time back, which is priceless.

It's valued at "a livable wage", which isn't always but ought to be, "minimum wage". That's how much money you need to have every month to not need to work and still be considered living.

> "The OP is correct in that materially, the capitalist and the worker are largely equals. We all use the same phones, TVs and computers now."

Which is why I was trying to point out that's a sham measure, it's like saying "King Richard is your equal because you both speak English!". That might be true, but it's certainly not true that we are equals, it's a distraction from all the things which aren't equal. If nothing else, it shows that using a smartphone, TV or computer has lost its significance now we all have it, rather than we all gained signficance by having it.


I didn't intend to come off so oppositional. I agreed with what you were saying, just was trying to add more in agreement.

>A (large company) CEO has the wealth to give them the freedom to not be an employee.

Yes but I didn't read that as "giving him his time back", I read that as "could be a manager, start a new company" etc.

I thought your post was excellent, apologies for misunderstandings. Cheers!




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