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> Some people are saying that these clauses are known upfront before joining

If you live in a country/state where this is legal, that doesn't really matter, because practically every company has non-compete clauses, and your options are to agree or be self-employed the or unemployed.




Or work for smaller companies.

I've had 100% success rate negotiating having it removed at companies <50 employees so far (and 0% success rate at companies >500 employees)


assuming you get a job offer at a smaller company.




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