On: 25 Years of PHP

[waheoo]

Whats old is new again.

Laravel et al read like java. Nobody wants that crap anymore. Everyones moving codebases back to more procedural styles with a good dose of functional leanings towards immutable values.

[ragnese → waheoo]

Which is basically impossible to do in PHP. How do you make a deep copy of an input argument to avoid mutating it?

How do you do a map+(filter|reduce)(+array_values) on an array without looping over it THREE times?

[leadingthenet → ragnese]

You’ve convinced me never to use PHP if I can help it

[DCoder → waheoo]

I'd say that Symfony reads like Java, whereas Laravel reads like a weird copy of Rails.