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Are we comparing apples with apples here? I get confused about the stats. Originally the dailies were deaths in hospitals, then it changed.

So the question is - is the 30k vs 50k comparable? Are they measured in the same way?




This 50k number is derived from expected deaths vs actual deaths. Italy's 30k is their reported deaths, which is still smaller than the UK's reported deaths, but I think you might be missing the tiny qualifier in the BBC headline, "highest in the EU" vs "highest in Europe".


No. The 50k number refers to “excess deaths”, which is the portion of “all cause mortality” above what you’d expect this time of year.




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