> If they do, the concerns in this article do not apply.
Most users are not your typical HN reader. Whatever is the default, or easy choice is the one that they are going to go for. Regulations were needed to forbid dark patterns with fishy defaults and pre-added items in the shopping car. People which profession is not related to computers may not have the time to spend analyzing and having a deep understanding of complex ethical computer problems.
> If you don't trust Google or Apple to do what they say they do then you need to stop using their OS and hardware.
I though that this argument was discarded long time ago. If I do not want to use Google nor Apple what are the alternatives? (I really mean it, it is not a cheap shot to your next argument, that is not a bad one) My bank has apps for iOS and Android, like my travel agency and even government. When so much depends on two providers choice is not really there.
That two points does not add much to your argument, as they are not good arguments in this or any situation. Leave them out next time and I think that your argument will gain more strength.
I agree that a constructive criticism is important, thou.
Which doesn't necessarily mean that the typical HN reader is right and most users are wrong. Many users will be prepared to sacrifice a bit of a "freedom" that HN users prize highly; that doesn't mean they're wrong to do so, just that their priorities differ.
In New Zealand, at least, I have no trouble conducting daily life using Web sites. I do have a smartphone but I don't use it for banking or shopping or government interactions. If my trust in Google and Apple declined I could downgrade to a dumbphone without much trouble (except for the trouble of actually finding one to buy).
I agree that this situation needs to be preserved. FWIW I worked at Mozilla for a long time because I was (and still am) enthusiastic about their mission, which is partly about making sure the Web remains a) a strong platform for such applications and b) not wholly controlled by Apple and Google. Part of that was doing FirefoxOS which mostly failed but curiously, via KaiOS in India, is also kind of succeeding.
Most users are not your typical HN reader. Whatever is the default, or easy choice is the one that they are going to go for. Regulations were needed to forbid dark patterns with fishy defaults and pre-added items in the shopping car. People which profession is not related to computers may not have the time to spend analyzing and having a deep understanding of complex ethical computer problems.
> If you don't trust Google or Apple to do what they say they do then you need to stop using their OS and hardware.
I though that this argument was discarded long time ago. If I do not want to use Google nor Apple what are the alternatives? (I really mean it, it is not a cheap shot to your next argument, that is not a bad one) My bank has apps for iOS and Android, like my travel agency and even government. When so much depends on two providers choice is not really there.
That two points does not add much to your argument, as they are not good arguments in this or any situation. Leave them out next time and I think that your argument will gain more strength.
I agree that a constructive criticism is important, thou.