Where are people getting a few seconds from? The video seems to display the crashed MCU for well over a minute. 30 minutes is unreasonable, but it does seem like the safest thing to do is pull over.
Once the hacker has crashed the MCU of the software (an old version you can't get any more) then it's up to the hacker how long they let it sit there in a crashed state. They could leave it there for hours or days, if they wanted to. I mean the car is in Park.
So, it doesn't make any sense that you are talking about the time starting from when the crash was induced by the hacker, to the time when the reboot finished. You must be talking about what all the above comments were talking about, which is the time to do a reboot.
Well, it was probably a hard reboot. Which can only be done while stopped and with foot holding the brake down. And which takes longer than a soft reboot. So how long was it, exactly, since you claim it was well over a minute?
I checked the video to see what you could possibly be talking about.
The reboot starts at 2:09. The UI comes back at 2:24, which is being conservative... we could easily call it 2:23. 15 seconds. For a hard reboot. Again, soft reboots are even faster.
So, yeah. Saying it took a minute or more is a wild exaggeration. Fifteen seconds.
During these 15 seconds you are missing out on the ability to see your speed, which was shown continuously in the largest font at the closest part of the screen right up until the moment of the reboot. (Except in this case the car was in Park, so it's super odd that anyone would worry about driving safety here). And you miss out on the ability to open the trunk, the frunk, and the charge port. And the ability to look at maps. And possibly voice commands. I don't see any safety issue here. If this bothers people, they can just refrain from rebooting their MCU while driving. And if they really do get hacked, just look at the screen, note the speed, and reboot. Soft reboot should be fine, and can be done while moving or not, it's up to the driver, free choice. Don't like rebooting while driving? Fine, pull over. You don't need to though. Fifteen seconds. Tops. Of not having your screen. Soft reboot probably more like ten seconds.
This is how people form mistaken opinions about Teslas. Lack of personal experience, ignorance, presupposition of facts that do not exist, gullible acceptance of anything you read or hear, and exaggeration of perceived problems to a bizarre level.
I was referring to this video where the car is driving 60mph down the highway, and the MCU stays crashed for over a minute: https://www.youtube.com/embed/UkhwRUaSCA4
> Well, it was probably a hard reboot. Which can only be done while stopped and with foot holding the brake down.
If this is true, then it seems like it is impossible to (hard) reboot the MCU while driving? So they definitely should pull over.
> This is how people form mistaken opinions about Teslas. Lack of personal experience, ignorance, presupposition of facts that do not exist, gullible acceptance of anything you read or hear, and exaggeration of perceived problems to a bizarre level.
You seem to be letting your Tesla fanboy/girlism blind you. I'm not "forming an opinion" about Tesla over this event, simply arguing that should this happen to you the safest and best thing to do is pull over. I would do the same thing in a normal (non-Tesla) car should the speedometer or other important part of the dash fail in those.
Soft reboot should work. I think leaving it crashed for 60 seconds was up to the discretion of the user. He never tried soft rebooting. Of course not, since it was a demo of the hack. But soft reboot would be my go-to thing here and I would also at the same time start looking for safe places to pull over just in case the soft reboot didn't fix it.
But yeah this is an annoying hack if it hits an average driver. I'd say whether it's dangerous or not depends on how the driver responds. Just as you say, if any important part of the dash fails, the actions to take are largely the same as for a regular car, except I'm adding that there is that additional option of the soft reboot, in the meantime, which may fix it completely before a pullover can even happen.
If they are not aware of soft reboot, they should just drive safely and pull over to call service to ask what to do. If they don't do this, it's just like anyone in any car driving with something non-functional; the responsibility falls on the driver.
>I'm not "forming an opinion" about Tesla
OK, fair enough. If not for you, it can stand as a general comment about the nature of comments often seen in discussions about Tesla.
