On: In Britain, even jails have a class system

[wpietri]

I deeply disagree that "much of human government through most of human history" is an edge case. I do agree that families are somewhat naturally hierarchical, and that can be good. However, there are plenty of examples of that being taken too far. I disagree that teaching and learning can only be accomplished through hierarchy, although that's certainly the common mode in industrial education.

So it's as I said: we have to look at our natural heritage and decide which parts are good. Natural does not equal good.

[jumpman500 → wpietri]

I think I misread the comment I was responding too.

I was more trying to say hierarchies are not always wrong, but I realize now that's not exactly what he was claiming. You're right they're often abused and should always be challenged. Nothing about nature is good or evil it just is.

[wpietri → jumpman500]

Thanks for saying so.