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You need to call yourself SREs and start getting paid properly :-)



Tangent: I hate this trend of following titles like that.

To my mind SRE != Sysadmin; SRE is a principle of tackling "Sysadmin" as if there were no sysadmins- engaging software solutions and engineering to track recurrent problems with a top-down approach, often with little understanding of high-availability in hardware or OS design.

Sysadmin is historically a role of automation and reliability, but working from the bottom up. I (and others) make sure operating systems are not exhausted and that the hardware can support various reliability metrics.

Personally, I think these roles are complementary because an auto-healing system that has a stable platform is going to be more reliable than something that is very over-engineered to deal with hardware faults as a common occurrence.

I don't think title inflation is necessary.

Don't get me started on "DevOps" engineers. It's either rebranded sysadmins doing the same thing but maybe with some CI/CD. Or Developers who have been thrown to the wolves. Hardly anyone is actually using the "there are no fullstack people, only full-stack teams" mantra.


I don't disagree with your analysis, but my (semi-serious) point was rather that most good SAs could do both, and that there might be a pay differential between SA and SRE as SRE is more popular currently.


Aha, fair enough I didn't mean to seem overly critical. Even though it's tongue in cheek, I think you're right.

I just lament the truth of your statement. :(


I think good SAs more than anything else suffer from the "Our systems never go wrong! What are we paying those people for?"


> Don't get me started on "DevOps" engineers. It's either rebranded sysadmins doing the same thing but maybe with some CI/CD. Or Developers who have been thrown to the wolves.

This made me laugh! This is so true.




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