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God these guys live in a bubble



"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

"Don't be snarky."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


i can see my response may have needed a few extra words, however I think referring to my comment in such a fashion is slightly misleading.

I’d hate to think that in this forum, just because a comment is short and succinct - what I thought to be a daily clear response, meaning “the authors live in a bubble of experience and expectations” - it is somehow lesser value that a comment that is long winded and without a clear opinion.

TLDR. I hope HN doesn’t confuse clear and succinct with snarky and sarcastic.


If it doesn't seem to you like "God these guys live in a bubble" would come across as snarky and sarcastic, it would be good to recalibrate. From my perspective—and I'm pretty sure many other readers' also—it's an internet swipe of precisely the kind we don't want here.

Totally agree that long-winded, empty comments are not the recommended alternative. What we want is curious conversation: thoughtful, substantive comments that contain information. Drive-by putdowns kill that; hence the moderation replies.


Well it is a good critical comment but the HN readers are part of the same bubble and don't realize it :)


It is not, it's far too short for that. The way it is now it isn't even a decent invitation to discuss.

dav43 could probably expand it into one easily though. What kind of bubble? Who's in it? Why do they think so? What are the consequences and what could be done about it? etc.


Well let me expand it again (i have another comment saying the same thing):

HN readers are for the most part highly paid tech workers. Even in the US, tell someone who makes 30k/year that you spend 1K/year on someone's Patreon and he'll think you're crazy... or spit in your face.


> HN readers are for the most part highly paid tech workers

That's a false assumption. HN is much larger than you think, with people all over the US and all over the world. It has highly paid workers, lowly paid workers, people who don't need to work, and people who need to but can't find any.

We tend to make assumptions like "for the most part" based on the internal image when our pre-existing conditions meet a handful of striking data points—say the first 3 or so. And then we don't change it. But which data points happen to strike us are actually a function of our pre-existing conditions also. There are many other data points.


That use of "bubble" is a pejorative, so the comment contained zero information, which means it teaches us nothing.


My thoughts, exactly.

And then they present the idea of selling what your customers want to buy as new ^_^




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