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I do wonder if any of this articles cost Google anything when it comes to hiring. Will people just take the big fat compensation or does google actually feel any pressure due to negative press.

In my mind at-least, I no longer reply to Google recruiters or consider Google as a respectable employer anymore.




> I do wonder if any of this articles cost Google anything when it comes to hiring.

I would say about half of the engineers that I personally know would never consider working for Google. But they largely reached that place years ago, so I don't think that more recent articles had anything to do with that.


The running joke among the last few years of MIT grads, as far as I've heard from our hires, is that only the bottom of the class goes to work at Google.


That’s baloney. The Course 6 undergraduates I know that went to work for Google, Snap and Microsoft had perfect 5.0s. There may be jokes about those kids but being the bottom of the class makes the least sense.


Grades aren't everything. How many times have you worked with a highly-credentialed person who couldn't perform when it actually mattered?

Baloney or not, I've got grads from the last 3 class years telling me this.

Also, I'm specifically talking about Google. Not any other FAANG.

Google is seen as a place to park yourself at a high salary, not have any responsibility and not get much done. Almost all of them interned at Google at some point and that's how their internships went too.


Their interview process and pay scale strongly indicates they’re optimizing for commodity new grads. I don’t see any appeal for experienced hires.


That's most tech companies that model after Google and have their senior leadership all ex-Google. Including mine.

Hiring seniors is tough and not a lot of companies want to pay market for them when they can get fresh meat for the feature factory and see if they get good on their own in a year or not.

It's extremely unfortunate, but for me the solution is to not work at places with hundreds+ of engineers.


where do they go instead?


It did cost them actual T7+ employees leaving. None of these people made a ruckus about it - they are too smart to burn bridges. Still they did call out bullshit in their parting letters.


Google has the power to hide negative press


Does Google use that power? I see a lot of negative press.


Money does not stink -> is the old saying. It doesn't matter for most people who pays them. There is still a huge queue of competent devs waiting to enter at G and FB and give everything they got for big money.




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