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When it comes to utility design the Rivian is far far ahead.

It's not about more conventional but about more convenient.

One example: you cannot throw stuff in the back of the Tesla from the side.

And when it comes to towing: nobody will use an electric vehicle yet. You can buy a gas truck for half the price with the same towing capacity. A gas truck with the same price as the Tesla will have twice the towing capacity.




What?! Sure it can be more convenient to drop things into the bed, but have you ever tried to get things back out of the bed of a full size pickup? Beds are tall. That's why it's more convenient to store things in the storage room compartments on the side of the Tesla's bed.

Give me another example of how Rivian’s utility design is "far ahead".


Have you seen the side loading compartment o nthe Rivian? Its a pretty cool design...

However - I am interested in neither the rivian and the tesla for their beds -- what I really want is the skateboard from the rivian and the ability to custom build the car I want on it -- if this takes off we can get back to the boutique still car shops of the 20s and earlier.


Have you owned a truck? How often are you throwing things into the bed from the side? What are these things?


Yes, literally all the time.

Sports gear, camping equipment, portable chairs, anything soft that can go on top of other luggage, all go over the side, over the back, however it's most convenient.

More importantly though, is that a lot of this gear is removed from the truck over the side, especially at the beach or on the mountain or at a trailhead, where I'm parallel-parked and can't easily remove items out of the back.


Most people who actually use the bed throw stuff in from the sides all the time.


For over 20 years I have owned various models of F150 Trucks

and I access from the side more often than I use the tailgate.

Infact my current Truck is a Regular bed, and the one before it was a FlairSide ... I miss my FlairSide that is my one big disappointments in Ford that they stopped making Styleside and FlairSide Beds

I haul every day small items, and home improvement supplies, and other things like that


Towing its exactly why I ordered a Cybertruck. Just waiting for confirmation the bed is suitable for "fifth wheel" camping trailer.


Do you mean that you can't throw stuff in the back of the Cybertruck when the bed cover is open? If so, why not?


They’re talking about access from the side.

Since the body of the CyberTruck gradually raises to the roof line, you can’t easily reach into the bed close to the rear window.


no one is thinking about that automatically adjusting suspension. It could lower itself when you get near with your phone, like an elephant kneeling down for you to climb on to it lol




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