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So five star hotels don't have... security? cameras? How can someone move something big like a mattress or a tv out of the hotel without being noticed?.. That's a horrible security mistake on the hotels' side!



How stealing a mattress likely works at a 5 star hotel in 1 act:

"Are those assholes stealing a mattress?", "Yep. Should we stop um?", "Nah, its probably some crazy rich asshat that'll complain to management about suing for harassment. We will just blacklist the name on the card from the room missing a mattress."


Litigating against someone who steals from a hotel costs more than just banning the person.

Hence, checking IDs and credit cards at hotels to make it easier to ban people.

I'm surprised hotel chains don't have a nationwide blacklist.


> I'm surprised hotel chains don't have a nationwide blacklist.

https://www.whosyourguest.com/en


I suspect people planning to steal a mattress didn't use their real name and credit card.


Forging government IDs and credit cards would dissuade many people, especially with the difficult in cloning the chips in credit cards.


Is the cloning of the chip actually necessary if the POS device is a swipe only unit? It is amazing how many retailers/vendors still do not accept chip. My current debit card is chip enabled, and works fine using the chip. However, it is now old enough that the mag stripe is worn off enough that the swipe only readers cannot read the information. I'm constantly being asked if I have another card to use. I always sarcastically ask if they have a different POS device to use that is modern with a chip reader.


I'm not sure what causes it, but Australia always seems to be really homogeneous regarding tech at the POS. As soon as NFC enabled EFTPOS was available from the banks, it felt like everyone already had the POS machine that could read them and chips.

I can't imagine going somewhere and having to use the swipe. Even some dinky rural bodega will have a swanky touch screen EFTPOS machine. I am thinking the banks must cover the cost.


> I am thinking the banks must cover the cost.

Rented, like your cable box. I'm not sure who funds the initial cost of new equipment, but as a retailer you'd just get new units in the mail.


May be a similar system to Denmark, where one of the major POS system sellers operator sort-of on a subscription basis. The retailers don't own the card machines themselves, but the machines are swiftly replaced when card standards are upgraded.


Yes, that would be a weakness on behalf of the hotel, but many hotels have enabled chip readers now.


I think even blacklisting someone is difficult due to hotelier laws.


Wonder if you can slip it off the balcony. From one story up, I bet it lands fine into the back of a pickup. Heck, you could probably haul another one up with a winch, and cover your tracks or at least have plausible deniability.


If you can drop something that big from balcony without getting noticed, the opposite with something getting in through the balcony is also possible then, still a major security issue.


The old "I brought it with me from home" line aha


They have them they just aren’t reporting to police so it doesn’t matter


Nicer hotels usually don't have cameras in guest corridors or fire stairwells.


Yeah, they're hidden in the light fixtures and smoke detectors.




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