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The post isn't clear, but I read it as "The cofounder has decided to shut the company down and hire the designer for a new venture in the exact same business doing the exact same thing, except using Shopify instead of a custom tech stack, so they don't need a technical cofounder anymore," which is basically "The cofounder has decided to downsize the other cofounder whose skills were no longer needed." If this is true, OP at the very least provided market validation/research/etc. If the new venture is relying on business relationships or branding from the old, then the claim is much stronger. If so, OP can say, look, you basically want to fire a cofounder and take their ownership stake but you don't want to fight this in court, neither do I, I will settle for you taking some of my ownership stake in exchange for going away quietly.

If the new venture is actually completely separate (or no more related than "In the process of trying to launch business X and failing, I realized that a very different business Y would be more profitable"), then yes, I agree with you.




I tend to agree with your thoughts but I would add this: If the cofounder is shutting one entity and starting another to do essentially the same thing, you don't want a piece of that pie. Count yourself lucky that all that happened is that the company failed and go to the next thing. If he's willing to do that, he's got next to zero character.

As for the code, I wouldn't touch it after the original company ceases. The code belongs to the entity that created it and when its gone, the code is gone. If you start something new from this code and it becomes successful, guess who is going to come out of the woodwork and want a portion of it? Yes, the same guy who likely would deny you anything from his new venture.

I've been in this situation and when you've written so much code, and it's good. It's painful to separate from it. I also flip houses and there are times when it's time to just sell the house already and I almost feel sad that I'm not going to get to work on it anymore. Sometimes I feel remorseful that I won't get to see all my good work after its sold. But here's the thing, if I don't sell it, I won't replenish the capital I need to do more. And in the software sense, if I don't move on from a project after its done, I will continue to mentally and physically labor on a work that is producing nothing. And if it does do something, you'll forever be looking over your shoulder for that cofounder who will sue you for a portion of it.

All this said, there are a couple of alternatives you can consider.

#1 is to simply agree with the founder that the company should open source the code base. This gives you the benefit of letting future employers, cofounders, coworkers, etc seeing your work. And this benefits him too as being associated with the project. it puts a coda on the project so that the work you did doesn't just disappear into vapor.

# 2 you should consider both signing separation agreements and put it in writing that everything is over and there are no claims on work product, intellectual property, etc.


> If you start something new from this code and it becomes successful, guess who is going to come out of the woodwork and want a portion of it?

This is literally the reason lawyers exist. It’s not hard to draft up an agreement where the former co-founder transfers all rights and ownership and relinquishes any claim to the technology.


Agreed I was just trying to help the person achieve a bit of zen. it’s nice to think you can get him to sign something but chances are he’ll interpret it that the code is worth something and dig in...As they say in arendelle ... let it go, let it go...


> OP at the very least provided market validation/research/etc

Exactly and this market validation has value for the "new" company. It's also not clear whether or not OP got paid during their two year jolly.




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