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Jim Keller [1] is widely credited for a large amount of Zen's success. Interestingly he is now at Intel.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer)




Mike Clark is the person who designed Ryzen and not Jim Keller. He is the guy who came up with the name Zen as well.

https://www.statesman.com/business/20160904/amid-challenges-...


There's a good talk by him about how Moore's law isn't dead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG9ztQw2Gc.

Obviously, people have different ideas about what they mean when they say "Moore's law is/is not dead", but I appreciate Jim's point that even if the current innovation curves we've been riding are slowing down, there are other innovation curves that we can take advantage of, and that the combination these curves mean that there's still plenty of innovation and improvement to be made in processor design.

Of course, the question of whether the x86 architecture will be the foundation for that future improvement remains to be seen. ARM and RISC-V are both eating x86 from below, and the fact that both of the processor architectures allow for greater competition among processor implementations suggests to me that one (or both) may catch up with x86 at some point in the future.


Especially the part at https://youtu.be/oIG9ztQw2Gc?t=1917

That Sunny Cove architecture slide shows a massive increase in the number of execution units.

It may be that Intel's next architecture, combined with memory speed improvements, is competitive with AMD.

But AMD also isn't sitting still. AMD's contributions (from what I can tell) include:

* Core counts have blown past 6 cores / 12 threads

* CPU prices have just been cut by half

* PCIe lanes have blown way past 8

* ECC ram is being offered in consumer PCs


I've also heard rumors of things like 4-way SMT. Of course, that's still a ways off (if it ever materializes).


I wouldn't put much stock in that particular rumor unless AMD is going all in on servers to the detriment of consumer chips. Or maybe they're developing two cores but they've been working hard to re-use engineering effort until now. They don't have the number of silicon engineers that Intel has and not even Intel is developing separate server and consumer cores.


4 and 8 way SMT exists on IBM POWER8/9.


Please don't. Or rather, please just give me enough cores at a reasonable price so I can disable inevitably leaky SMT.


Jim Keller moving between companies is the real tick-tock cycle.


IIRC he went at every important cpu company back to back. Wasn't he part of the Apple soc team too ?


Yes. Designed Alpha for DEC, Designed Athlon/Athlon XP/Athlon 64 for AMD, designed network switches for SiByte/Broadcom, designed Apple's SOCs at PA Semi, designed Zen for AMD, designed AI accelerators at Tesla, now back at Intel.

Apart from SiByte/Broadcom pretty much a greatest hits list of disruptive architectures over the last 20 years.


They may be less known, but a huge percentage of the world's internet backbone runs on those Broadcom chips.


Aren't Broadcom network switching SOC the industry standard?


Yes, but those are fixed function designs like Trident or Tomahawk (yes, they name their switch chips after missiles).

When Broadcom uses the term SOC, they mean "Switch on a Chip" to differentiate their single chip designs from older multi chip architectures.

SiByte was MIPS-based, more like an NPU than an (Broadcom term) SOC.


Man what a career.


Yes, he is a very well off man now.

He moved to Intel during last transfer season




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