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Let me get this straight. You have an opt-in way of telling them what you use, which you don't use and then get upset because your use isn't considered? What should do they do, send a surveyor to your house?

Sound decision making requires metrics. If you opt-out of metrics, you don't get to participate in decisions.




> If you opt-out of metrics, you don't get to participate in decisions.

Would you agree to a Democracy where the government put sensors in your house, then told you which candidate your vote would be counted towards from your behaviour?

And if you opted out of that, you don't get to participate at all?


Sound decision making requires reasonable metrics. To quote the lead dev of popcon when someone said that they couldn't recommend it due to specific concerns:

"If you deal with people with strict security/privacy requirement, you are correct to do so. I would do the same."


> What should do they do, send a surveyor to your house?

Not use data from a mechanism that's controversial with some of the user base to drive decisions? Reach out and ask people, instead of asking their machines?

> Sound decision making requires metrics. If you opt-out of metrics, you don't get to participate in decisions.

Sound decision making requires some kind of metrics and also sound reasoning. It doesn't mean that metrics have to be widely-deployed telemetry. There are alternatives, like doing studies "the old way". Moreover, it can be argued that a lot of problems on today's Internet stem from people vacuuming up whatever data they can find and divining decisions out of it. It's not how you do science.


> Not use data from a mechanism that's controversial with some of the user base to drive decisions? Reach out and ask people, instead of asking their machines?

That would require more time and money that could be spent elsewhere.


"It's cheaper this way" is not a valid justification for doing the wrong thing over the right thing.


> Reach out and ask people, instead of asking their machines?

So you would have statistics biased by not accounting for people not bothered to answering these questions instead of not accounting for people not using popcon?


You'd have statistics biased towards people caring to express their opinions. You also wouldn't mistakenly assume that because something isn't regularly used it's also not needed.




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