On: Typed Properties in PHP 7.4

[oblio]

We're basically getting a huge Algol mono-language.

C is not really moving, but C++ is also converging towards this Java++ language.

Java itself is finally moving.

C# is a bit ahead of the curve, because it can follow the trail blazed by F#.

PHP started moving towards Java back from when PHP5 was introduced.

Javascript is moving towards Typescript which is following C#'s lead.

Python is kind of the only non-Algol mainstream hold out.

Did I miss any of the big enterprise languages? :-?

[plopz → oblio]

How is Javascript moving towards Typescript?

[k__ → plopz]

I don't know either.

TS was influenced mainly by C# at the start, then from FlowType and currently it's mainly influenced by ECMAScript.

So to me it feels like the other way around.

[babyloneleven → oblio]

How is Python non-Algol?

[oblio → babyloneleven]

How is Python Algol-based or inspired? I've never seen anyone describing as such, did Guido ever say it was?

[cygx → oblio]

https://web.archive.org/web/20070501105422/http://www.amk.ca...

It's in the Algol family, mostly indirectly through ABC, Modula-2 and 3, C, ...

Per the interview, string slicing actually came directly from Algol-68 (and Icon).

[Avamander → oblio]

plpgsql and similar?

[oblio → Avamander]

SQL you mean? True, but that's more of a DSL. In the same vein you'd have HTML, CSS, but I was talking about general purpose programming languages.

[Avamander → oblio]

No, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/pgSQL is not SQL.