You are mistaking Hacker news for reddit. The burden of proof lies on the person making fantastic claims. I obviously have sources saying the contrary that's why I disagree with your sentiment. That's why I'm interested to see the sources claiming the contrary.
Maybe you should do some googling yourself and you'll find footage of French Rafale wiping the floor with the raptor in a simulated dogfight.
The point of the F22 is that you don't get into a dogfight in the first place, you blow the adversary away from beyond visible range. The Rafale is a very good plane, but is not as stealthy as the Raptor.
In any case, it will be years before we can say which is the superior plane, since all the good stuff is classified.
Americans have been saying that wvr combat is over for like over 50 years. Even the US airforce doesn't believe this otherwise they wouldn't be drilling for wvr combat.
The point is, no one has enough data to claim that the raptor is absolutely the most superior and dominant fighter jet. Making that claim simply based on stealth is foolish.
Pilots train and will continue to train on wvr combat because those are the basic piloting and combat skills required regardless of what you're flying. They're going to continue drilling wvr even if they had a hypothetical perfectly stealth unobservable plane just because those are the drills that make a fighter pilot.
Spend a couple days learning a flight combat sim like DCS and it will become crystal clear that stealth is not only an advantage, it is almost unbeatable by a 4th gen fighter without additional support. If you're in a 4th gen fighter, your offensive options are pretty much nonexistent against a low observable fighter. The best thing you can do is dodge the first 1/2 fox-3 it throws at you, turn off your radar, and get out while you still have a plane. We're not even talking about standoff weapons yet.
Even if you somehow got into a wvr dogfight against an F-22, you'd still lose because it's one of a handful of fighters capable of supermaneuverability. [1]
There are 187 operational F-22, they've been in service for 14 years, and they've had zero losses. Go ahead and try to find anything that comes even close.
"The F-22 achieved Full Operational Capability (FOC) in December 2007, when General John Corley of Air Combat Command (ACC) officially declared the F-22s of the integrated active duty 1st Fighter Wing and Virginia Air National Guard 192d Fighter Wing fully operational.[151] This was followed by an Operational Readiness Inspection (ORI) of the integrated wing in April 2008, in which it was rated "excellent" in all categories, with a simulated kill-ratio of 221–0.[152]"
Given the fact that there have been 0 losses and those planes haven't been sitting idle in storage for the past decade, it's a pretty good bet that their real world perf is better than the simulated 221-0.
F22 hasn't seen combat vs a capable airforce so its hard to take the aforementioned "kill ratios" seriously. Basing your reasoning on a video game is also not the best source of information.
The airforce drills for wvr because history has shown that dogfighting is inevitable. That's the basis of Russian airforce program and that's why the flanker airframe is still the most agile and will run literal circles around the raptor.
Right because personal attacks are not drivel /s. You are making completely baseless assertions with nothing to back them up. And you are resorting to personal attacks because you have nothing credible left to say.
Maybe you should do some googling yourself and you'll find footage of French Rafale wiping the floor with the raptor in a simulated dogfight.