> It would be not, stop pretending acquiring consent from a statistical model counts as acquiring consent from the actual user.
I don't know what you are referring to here. Care to elaborate?
> Thing you wrote may make it acceptable for you, but certainly ain't sufficient for me.
This isn't about individual taste. Nothing I wrote above was about my personal taste. My point was about differentiating between the OS provided valid architectural mechanisms vs surreptitious dark patterns applied on top of it by an application developer.
I don't know what you are referring to here. Care to elaborate?
You make assumptions about individual user's consent from whatever bulk experiences you might have measured. Either that, or you didn't even measure anything and therefore you're just making things up about what's "acceptable."
> This isn't about individual taste.
Who said anything about taste, it's about individual boundaries.
> My point was about differentiating between the OS provided valid architectural mechanisms vs surreptitious dark patterns applied on top of it by an application developer.
First, that's a word salad. Second, after untangling it, I'm pretty sure you mean "if there's a mechanism in the OS that enables this then it's okay" in which case that's even more absurd than the usual "if it's legal then it's okay." Look, even if you take Zoom's "let's leave a tray icon there when you thought you quit the app without putting a honking huge notice you just did that like a decent app usually does" is more about having a way to disawov ("see, we did leave a notification, lol") than actually ethical design. That's the _essence_ of a dark pattern.
Seriously, though, you're being creepy and advocating pushing people's boundaries here.
I don't know what you are referring to here. Care to elaborate?
> Thing you wrote may make it acceptable for you, but certainly ain't sufficient for me.
This isn't about individual taste. Nothing I wrote above was about my personal taste. My point was about differentiating between the OS provided valid architectural mechanisms vs surreptitious dark patterns applied on top of it by an application developer.