> It was secretly installing webservers that dont even remove themselves when you uninstall the app that makes them scum.
To be fair, dragging an "app" to Trash does not constitute un-installation. It was a poor design decision to implement features using a local web server, but let's not be so quick to attribute covert, malicious intentions.
> To be fair, dragging an "app" to Trash does not constitute un-installation.
Dragging an app to Trash MUST constitute uninstallation. If it doesn't, it is a bug.
Leaving configuration files in home folder for easier on-boarding after a reinstall is not the same thing as leaving a self replicating rootkit running all the time.
> It was a poor design decision to implement features using a local web server, but let's not be so quick to attribute covert, malicious intentions.
Zoom, with all its advertised features, works like a charm from the user's standpoint. It is not that easy to craft such seamless video conferencing apps which makes me believe the team behind it is formed by really experienced people. If this assumption is true, "the poor decision" is actually the true intention and is probably a feature in case zoom needs to install extra software on my device when their business needs change. It feels more like a back up plan than a dirty hack.
In my humble opinion, experts ignoring the ethical consequences of such decision are dangerous to society and their intention can be considered malicious if not criminal.
I'm sick of seeing the blame always belonging to the business people. Unless taken hostage and forced to act despite not giving consent, the developer should be equally responsible. We don't treat murderers, burglars and scammers the same when they work under a boss.
P.S: I probably strawmanned your answer to express my own opinion. English isn't my native language, sorry if my words sounded offensive.
There are plenty of Mac apps where dragging the app to the trash doesn’t uninstall them.
Unlike windows which has the add/remove programs control panel there isn’t really a standardized way to uninstall things on Mac. (I think you can make a .pkg uninstaller but it’s rare to see that)
I went through the launch agents and launch daemons on my personal computer a few months ago and found plenty of obsolete stuff that was hanging around even after I no longer had whatever the associated app was installed.
To be fair, dragging an "app" to Trash does not constitute un-installation. It was a poor design decision to implement features using a local web server, but let's not be so quick to attribute covert, malicious intentions.