On: Apple iCloud Experiencing Issues

[the-dude]

The iPhone and the atomic bomb were kept secret quite well.

[dillonmckay → the-dude]

I don’t think there has been a case of an atomic bomb engineer leaving a prototype at a bar, though.

[r00fus → dillonmckay]

How would we know? Information (esp. sensitive ) was a lot easier to hide back then.

Also the iPhone leaked was an iterative-model not the original.

[creddit → r00fus]

I think we know because an atomic bomb prototype would have been far too large and conspicuous for an individual to take to, let alone leave at, a bar :)

[Apocryphon → creddit]

Not to mention the bar would’ve been in Los Alamos, a town run by the military.

[JohnBooty → r00fus]

Also there were rumors of the iPhone for yeeeeaaaars. I remember people jokingly referring to it as "the jesus phone" while speculating about it.

[scarface74 → the-dude]

There were rumors of the iPhone for a couple of years before it was released.

Even funnier, there were quite accurate rumors based on patents of the “true video iPod” since 2003 - a 3.5 inch all touch screen iPod. The rumor sites correctly predicted the iPod Touch down to the resolution years before it was released. They didn’t know that would also be the form factor of the iPhone.

[wybiral → the-dude]

One company keeping a specific product launch secret is different from three or four independent companies and all of their network engineers all conspiring.

[the-dude → wybiral]

Sure, but the Manhattan project was a huge undertaking with multiple extremely large facilities.

What if the NSA identified a critical backdoor and ordered all major companies to decommission and not talk about it? ( NSLs )

[wybiral → the-dude]

Fair enough... But then they all just did a really crappy job of concealing the patch?

[the-dude → wybiral]

Note I said decommission, not patch. And aren't most of the outages of this period routing related?

[wybiral → the-dude]

Why would you assume it to be so malicious, if true?

Maybe they were under attack. Maybe they were just removing all of the Bloomberg rice grain chips! :)

There's an infinite number of "maybe"s though. Far more than there are truths.

Your own bias about the entities shapes your conspiracy theory.

[NavekM → the-dude]

From the public, yes. From other nations, no.