On: Infinite loop in macOS Night Shift in the summer near the Arctic Circle

[mason55]

Yeah I always feel like a jerk when people open tickets in the summer saying “Please do this at #:## EST” and I have to reply “thanks for providing a time but it’s currently EDT in NYC. Is that what you meant?”

[wil421 → mason55]

No reason to be snarky with people. They mean whatever time it currently is or will be.

[heavenlyblue → wil421]

Are you sure though?

If they copied that date from some automated system it might as well be any of these.

Humans usually say “New York time”.

[lilyball → heavenlyblue]

In my experience, humans never say "New York time", or "San Francisco time", or anything like that, they say "EST" and "PST" regardless of whether daylight saving's is on.

I'm guilty of this too, since I can never remember which part of the year constitutes "on" and which is "off", only where the boundaries are. If I stop and think I can usually remember "spring ahead is turning it on", but never off the top of my head.

[lopmotr → mason55]

That's only slightly worse than how I feel when people say that something's happening in the summer when it's actually winter where I live.

[michaelmior → mason55]

I hear you. It almost always is what people meant but most of us (myself included) rarely think about the distinction.

[jimktrains2 → michaelmior]

I've just gotten to saying ET (or equivalent) all year-round .

[macintux → jimktrains2]

That’s the battle I fight: persuading people that saying “Eastern” is accurate and sufficiently precise. Precise and inaccurate is a bad combination.