> If Apple design -- hardware and software -- declined during Ive's rein that, to me, is evidence that Ive is not preternaturally talented.
Sometimes it takes working with specific types of people to bring out someone's talent in the best way. I think Steve Jobs did that for Jony Ive in a unique way - it brought out the best in his work.
Steve thought of it as The Beatles model - the team should bring out the best in everyone around them. Look at how many people pushed back on him and made great things happen - the iTunes on Windows. The App Store on iOS. Etc etc
Sometimes it takes working with specific types of people to bring out someone's talent in the best way. I think Steve Jobs did that for Jony Ive in a unique way - it brought out the best in his work.