I appreciate it's a hot potato in the US, however in my opinion these kind of thigs should only be sold to military,in which case no CRM is required,as there are only a handful of countries as potential clients.I used guns for many years and can't see a single reason why anyone would need it for personal use.
That is not at all how the defense industry works.
The military invented modern procurement, of which sales is an important part.
There might only be a handful of countries any one country will sell to (50-75) but each country will have multiple armed forces, potentially hundreds of police departments, government agencies etc. etc.
Then there are private companies that may be allowed defence related tech, such as non lethal area denial equipment for shipping or oil in hostile areas.
>I appreciate it's a hot potato in the US, however in my opinion these kind of [things] should only be sold to military
You "used guns for many years" - OK, I suppose that makes you an expert on self defense choices in the US.
The DoD released a report that found the AR pattern rifle to be the absolutely most appropriate personal defense weapon that exists today - why do you or SalesForce get to decide what is appropriate for my personal protection?
The only real question here is why would I ever want my CRM company to make decisions like that for me or anyone else? Should I want my CRM company to care at all what I'm selling? Why would you ever assume it stops at things you personally don't like?
There are many reasons why they might not want gun manufacturers using them and one of them being that it doesn't fit their marketing agenda. The image they are painting is that it's a nice,inclusive, supporting and charitable company where the sky is is the limit for anyone.And suddenly its like: oh that nice and soft helps to sell guns? And that's what they keep communicating to the world.I understand it's BS but they seem to be willing to drop some account to make sure the bs becomes more believable.
As for self defense part-no,I'm not an expert on the choices in the US but I'm pretty sure there's plenty.
DoD may be right, however what are the circumstances? If I'm in highly populates area,the use of AR rifle can result in lots of collateral damage if not handled well. It is also very impractical to carry, especially if your job is not in military or security. Does AR rifle stops a potential threat well? I have no doubts of it, however it's practicality remains a huge question mark...
I didn't say I don't like guns,I just think it just doesn't make sense to have such rifles for self defense. I appreciate the US may not be the safest place on the planet,but just realistically what kind of potential attackers one would expect to stop with it?
I’m going to leave the rifle stuff alone because you seem to have very little in the way of actual knowledge vs myth and misunderstanding. The very minimum you could do would be to learn about destabilization and over penetration of ball 9mm compared to 556.
I’ll ask simply, again, why would you ever assume it stops at things you personally don't like?
It doesn't stop and it's not that I don't like,I don't understand it. You just ignored all my questions and went on about penetration..It would be interesting to hear your opinion,maybe I'm missing something.
"If I'm in highly populates area,the use of AR rifle can result in lots of collateral damage if not handled well."
Use hollow-point rounds instead of full metal jacket rounds to decrease penetration. But the problem is usually overstated anyway. See [1][2] below.
"It is also very impractical to carry, especially if your job is not in military or security."
Get an AR-15 "pistol". [3] You should be able to fit one in a decent-sized backpack. Some of them have barrels as short as 7 inches. If that's still too big, separate the upper and lower receivers. You'll just have to spend a good 30 seconds reassembling the weapon before loading a magazine.
"but just realistically what kind of potential attackers one would expect to stop with it?"
Looters attempting to destroy your business and livelihood, for example [4]. And that's not a problem restricted to the US; violent looters are a worldwide problem. Rural farmers being lynched for ethnic or economic reasons in Africa would probably love to have a semi-automatic weapon to even their odds against numerous attackers armed with (presumably) edged weapons or pistols. [5][6]
The perpetual problem we see with gun control advocates is that they extrapolate from their experience living in metropolitan areas with far higher law-enforcement densities, push for laws that affect EVERYONE, and then end up depriving people in rural areas from the tools they actually NEED to be responsible for their own safety and security.
