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That is not so bad to depress some of those wages, my plumber is making $2k/Day. I don't know too many people making that kind of money even in tech, let alone other disciplines!



I think your plumber has additional material and labor costs you're not seeing.


Primary cost of labor is your health. Those kind of jobs aren't done by people over 45. The human body degrades during that sort of work.


Lol tell that to my dad who is still painting houses at 63. Or his competition who is still painting at 70. that is preposterous. In fact most laborors I know are well above 45. Yeah it takes a toll on your health but most of the health issues I see in labor intensive jobs is because of alcoholism. Its good for your body by and large to get up every day and do physical work. Yes your back will hurt, and your feet and your joints. But you'll be in good health.


Think construction... welders... carpenters... plumbers... guys who smash appendages and crawl around in mud.

I know quite a few old ones and I know many many more who struggle with pain every day as they are my age and talk to me about it. ( IT being my 3rd career after welding and meatcutting ) I have many friends who are dropping out of the workforce and finding alternative jobs because they cant do the work.

Painting is hard work but its one of the less body impacting you can do. There are a few roles like that and yes, being active is a good thing.


have you heard about age discrimination in tech?


I have 50 decades of life and work in tech. You tell me ?


Look, Methusela. I doubt you were working in software in the 1500s.


LOL um... typo :)


Please don't post shallow attacks on other people because of obviously trivial misstatements. That adds noise, not signal.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Materials sure, but what do you mean labor? He is the labor, he gets the money.


There's more to running a plumbing company that just the person who shows up at the job site. Plus, plumbing isn't a one-person job. Every plumber has helper/apprentices, etc.


How is that different from when I take on contract tech work and farm out some of the work. everyone has these types of problems when they are sole proprietors.


I believe you're confusing top-line revenues and profits available for the tradesman. As it stands, you're asserting that your plumber makes approximately 14x the average plumber in America, and 10x the average plumber in San Francisco. This is unlikely to be correct.

In a similar vein, Apple takes in over $2,000,000 of revenue per employee, but Genius Bar employees are not taking that amount home. I mention this solely because it uses the same reasoning evident in your initial claims.


I kind of agree with your point, but you really think an average licensed plumber in SF makes $200/day???


Well, I did a cursory search for data, and it seems to indicate that this is the case.

So yes... I think the average plumber in SF is making about $70k/yr. (so ~$300 per day worked, or $200 per day).




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