I spent the last few days writing this piece as I was reflecting and frustrated with my short-term progress (or lack there of). This led me to consider what I think greatness even is, which was almost therapeutic to think through.
Curious to know what people think about this. Can "greatness" really be achieved quickly?
While I agree with much of your article, it's interesting to me that you cite this tweet:
Building products, writing, and painting are not mental excercises, they are physical ones.
Reading to improve is like watching someone else workout – it does almost nothing for you.
To run better, run.
To paint better, paint.
To write better, write.
To build better, build.
I certainly agree that practice is the core of all increase in skill. However, I've found that the differentiation factor of my skills comes from being someone who reads, who looks for better ways to run. From being someone who constantly reflects on the practice that occurs. This is something that's well supported by research (the notion of deliberate practice).
OP here. This is a good point. While I certainly think there is value in reading _how_ to do things better, IMO there is an upper limit on this. I more often see people reading about X, Y, or Z, never to actually take action, rather than the other way around. I also think you learn iteratively by doing.
However, I do agree that it is necessary to take a step back and learn from others along the way.
I write fiction in my spare time, and at least anecdotally, I think the obsessive readers, the most well-read folks in the workshops/classes I've done have consistently been the best writers. I know writers who have written millions of words, but don't read enough to pick up an intuitive sense of what good looks like.
I'm often astonished, when I read old interviews with great writers in The Paris Review's Writers at Work series, just how well-read the masters are. They've read everything. Soaked it all in. And writers borrow, copy, steal, adapt, all the time.
Of course, I agree with the heart of the matter, that just doing the thing is most important, but I do wonder if it is sufficient.
Are you suggesting that scientists shouldn't read about the latest developments in their field? They should just start from scratch and try to figure out everything without any prior knowledge or learning from others?
My take is there is reading as doing and reading as watching. Reading the research of other scientists is reading as doing. Reading about how other people become scientists is reading as watching.
A lot of practice that's not directed properly is useless, especially for complex mental skills. For example, I learned Java's stream syntax to the point where I wrote an article that thousands of people read. Do I remember a single thing? No, because I don't use Java every day. I just remember that it sucked compared to LINQ because every collection type had a different method to turn it into a stream. That's it. From weeks of study, practice, and an article. Mostly a complete waste - if it didn't build into my rep, it would be a complete waste.
1. Put in an extreme amount of effort to maximize the goodness you create and minimize the amount of bad.
2. Have extreme events impact your life (by no fault of your own) in a short period of time.
3. Change how you measure greatness.
Ten years ago, I could not see myself in the life that I have now. Everyday I accomplish things which would have been impossible for my previous self to do. I quit smoking, drinking, and manage chronic illness. I exercise, garden, clean the house, and play with my dog. I earned the love of my wife and the respect of my friends. I now have a family who loves me and is proud of me and I feel like I actually have options. Every day I do great things, not in comparison to yesterday but certainly compared to my previous self.
It sounds like you've built yourself a wonderful life. I think people really underestimate the greatness of doing seemingly mundane things consistently. All the things you mentioned seem trivial to an outsider, but over the course of a life, they make your whole existence so much much more pleasant.
Investing time in a marriage, or parenting, or working out seems less important than just about anything at the moment you have the opportunity to do it, but lots of people get divorced and it makes them very unhappy. Lots of people are estranged from their children and it makes them very unhappy. Lots of people suffer from health problems directly related to diet and exercise.
Obviously there are lots of things we can't control and I certainly don't mean to suggest that anyone who gets divorced, etc. brought it on themselves, but for how mundane most people consider these things, becoming a fit, healthy 60 year old who is happily married to a wife of multiple decades with fulfilled adult children is really quite exceptional. I think that would fit most people's idea of a "great" outcome, but in my experience, people don't really strive toward that on a daily basis, because the daily building blocks don't seem important.
From what I've seen as an attorney and tax accountant, greatness in a profession is also more closely related to getting the little things right day after day than any sort of heroic undertaking. There's always a place for heroics, but I think most people would be surprised at how often the little things get messed up, and how easy it is to look quite competent by just doing the seemingly mundane things consistently.
>Investing time in a marriage, or parenting, or working out seems less important than just about anything at the moment you have the opportunity to do it.
I feel the complete opposite. The only reason I do the other things is so I can be good at those 3 things (and a few others in a similar category).
Can you expand a bit on your points? 2 and 3 are not so clear to me, but I'm quite interested in all 3 actually. Seems like you built a great life :) Congrats!
The whole thing is great (har har) but one passage has always resonated with me ...
> When Mary T. Meagher was 13 years old and
had qualified for the National Championships,
she decided to try to break the world record in
the 200-Meter Butterfly race. She made two
immediate qualitative changes in her routine:
first, she began coming on time to all practices.
She recalls now, years later, being picked up at
school by her mother and driving (rather
quickly) through the streets of Louisville,
Kentucky, trying desperately to make it to the
pool on time. That habit, that discipline, she
now says, gave her the sense that every minute
of practice time counted. And second, she
began doing all of her turns, during those
practices, correctly, in strict accordance with the
competitive rules. Most swimmers don’t do this;
they turn rather casually, and tend to touch
with one hand instead of two (in the butterfly,
Meagher’s stroke). This, she says, accustomed
her to doing things one step better than those
around her—always. Those are the two major
changes she made in her training, as she
remembers it.
Dedicated, deliberate practice of qualitative improvements, frequent direct comparisons of oneself to one's peers and exemplars and a singular S.M.A.R.T. goal. That's all it takes to be excellent.
I did not read your blog post (I'm in HN comment reading mode) but I will give a couple of pieces that I found to the puzzle.
In The Tim Ferriss experiment the (in)famous (?) Tim Ferriss "learns a new language within 3 days" [1]. I put that in quotes because it is really up for debate. However, he had a very very clear goal: come off across as passable during an interview.
While this is only 3 days, Warren Buffet says something similar with focusing on your 5 biggest goals and leaving anything else aside [2].
The point is:
- Be consistent (I saw that word as well while skimming your blog post)
- Only try to attack the goal direclty, since it is very likely that attacking your goal directly is possible. Tim Ferriss could've gone to classes to learn Tagalog or watch movies to learn it. However, there are better methods than that in service to his goal.
- Focus relentlessly on your most important goals (a tip from Warren Buffet).
By doing these 3 things, I believe that greatness can be achieved quickly, provided that you set a sharp definition of it. Achieving greatness in the eyes of others, however, is a very different feat and a bit of a fickle / unhealthy one, in my opinion (e.g. just see the reactions to what Elon Musk is doing, I think he's great, but I'm pretty sure he has naysayers).
Re Elon Musk, this statement in the article is something I always consider when I think of what he has achieved:
> Ask yourself whether you’d like to spend your days, weeks, months, and years in a constant uphill battle.
Opinions of what anyone may have of Elon personally aside, I think any rational person has to be in awe of all he's been able to achieve. Yet the hours he puts in 7 days a week, and what the constant stress-levels must be like... I'm not sure I'd want to swap places with him.
No way I would want to swap with any of the big CEOs. I don’t enjoy business enough to do it 24/7. Same for being leader of a country. No way I would want to do that.
No way I'd like to swap with most of the big CEOs, but I would like to swap with Elon Musk, for the simple reason - the former are businesses, mostly arbitrary to me (and, arguably, to them). In case of Musk, his businesses are all just vehicles to achieve goals (pushing humanity out into space, electrification of transport to combat climate change) - goals that strongly resonate with me. I think Musk can pull off the workload he does only because he cares for those goals, not for business.
I have not had time to go through it all in careful detail but what I have read so far has helped frame this exact topic I have been struggling with as well. So thank you very much for this!
I can imagine greatness achieved quickly through combining previously-accrued experiences into a new domain. Often people are steadily striving for "goodness" in multiple areas over many years - maybe one subject as a formal education and another as a hobby. Then you meet a problem that combines the two and you are on the fast(er) track to "greatness". Anecdotally, most people I consider great are generalists with highly diverse interests which seems to support this idea.
Yes, but rarely. Quick and great can't be expected. Only consistency can be expected to produce greatness, and even then, not always. But like you said, it always comes back to the definition of greatness and that can be defined in different ways, and it should be, depending on what we're talking about.
For example, it's not likely, but it is possible for a new film maker to make a film that wins a prestigious award their first try and in less than a few months. But, I don't think most filmmakers could or should expect the same result. It takes most filmmakers many years and many tries (that "being good repeatedly" that you talk about) to make an award winning film. Event then, there are people who think the most highly awarded films are not great.
On the other hand, something less subjective would be much more difficult to achieve "greatness" in quickly... such as physical fitness competitions. Somebody who takes up even the most normal activity, such as running, isn't going to quickly be able to beat athletes who have been training for years longer at a 100 meter sprint.
I don’t think it’s worth the effort trying to pin down what greatness is. I mean, what’s the point? Does being “great” make you a better person? Who is giving out gold stars for greatness? Why does it matter?
Possibly. But the path to greatness is largely dependent upon how you try to get there. "Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi Jr.
Curious to know what people think about this. Can "greatness" really be achieved quickly?