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Apple could solve this problem by including python3 with macOS...



They sure could, but is it worthy to maintain an alternative package and deployment system for which you have no use yourself? Will employees be careful and committed to something useless for their jobs?

They previously deprecated Java runtime for similar reasons. And I can’t really blame them, roadmap is crystal clear now, they prefer to assign ressources to develop Swift/Swift UI and improve tooling for native code development.


I agree overall, but I do think it's a little sad that you can no longer open a Terminal and start writing Python. I think this legitimately matters in terms of increasing overall tech and programming literacy.

Mind, there's still a command line and shell built-in, which I consider far more important.


Its not like the rest of the terminal is friendly to newbies. An online ‘jsfiddle’ like environment suitable for newbies (with a bit of inline syntax hints without turning into a full IDE) would be more useful to get people to start playing with programming


Separately from including python, I've always thought it would be nice if TextEdit had some built-in syntax highlighting, that activated automatically for the right file extensions.

I'm generally against bloating simple apps, but you'd never see this unless you opened a .py file (or .sh, .rb, etc), and if you open a .py file, you probably want syntax highlighting.


You can open https://repl.it/languages/python3 and start writing Python.


with open("~/Documents/important.csv", "r") as f: f.read()

No? Oh well, I guess programming is hard, IT was right. Ok, back to excel...


You can just drag and drop the file on repl.it and it'll just work :)


Gee, thanks. My point was about discoverability and being able to Google for "read csv with Python", not whether experienced programmers can hack things together.


Majority of our users are hobbyists and novices


Presumably someone said that about python 2 back in the day and that turned out to be a pretty bad decision.


Isn't this the same as saying, we should never include any software, lest it become outdated someday?


Apple could solve this problems by including homebrew with macOS...




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