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I agree. Nobody should underestimate the Mossad: https://youtu.be/bJujIwtdk8w



From my favourite Usenix paper (https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1401_08-12_mickens.pdf):

Basically, you’re either dealing with Mossad or not-Mossad.

If your adversary is not-Mossad, then you’ll probably be fine if you pick a good password and don’t respond to emails from ChEaPestPAiNPi11s@virus-basket.biz.ru.

If your adversary is the Mossad, YOU’RE GONNA DIE AND THERE’S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. The Mossad is not intimidated by the fact that you employ https://. If the Mossad wants your data, they’re going to use a drone to replace your cellphone with a piece of uranium that’s shaped like a cellphone, and when you die of tumors filled with tumors, they’re going to hold a press conference and say “It wasn’t us” as they wear t-shirts that say “IT WAS DEFINITELY US,” and then they’re going to buy all of your stuff at your estate sale so that they can directly look at the photos of your vacation instead of reading your insipid emails about them.

And:

Threat: The Mossad doing Mossad things with your email account

Solution: Magical amulets? Fake your own death, move into a submarine? YOU’RE STILL GONNA BE MOSSAD’ED UPON

(That's perhaps a little too light-hearted humor, considering the youtube link in the post I'm responding to...)


Fun fact: The mossad ran a job ad on facebook a while ago, which involved a sequence of riddles. First discover a server based on some random seeming sequence of characters on an image. Then you had to solve a number of programming puzzles. I stopped at the third one, because I don't actually want to work there.


Suddenly I’m less impressed in the Mossad. Really they recruit hackers on FB?

If I do a quick samples of people I know, there’s a super high correlation in being a hacker/developer and not using Facebook. Maybe they should try HN instead.


And now orbifold is on one of their lists...

Have fun in the submarine!


> ...they’re going to hold a press conference and say “It wasn’t us” as they wear t-shirts that say “IT WAS DEFINITELY US,” and then they’re going to buy all of your stuff at your estate sale so that they can directly look at the photos of your vacation instead of reading your insipid emails about them.

That's basically Israel's attitude on anything: doing anything they want without any kind of boundaries, then denying brazenly they did it, while doing it again and again. Like having snipers shooting at thousands of civilians, kids, journalists, paramedics, who are protesting inside their own borders.


> doing anything they want [...] then denying brazingly

That’s actually a time-honoured Russian/Soviet SOP, currently embodied by Mr. Sergey Lavrov.

The USSR had a lot of influence on early Israel, and it shows in many little things like this.


I'd say it has more to do with the very Jewish concept of chutzpah. According to Wikipedia, the term is used "to describe someone who has overstepped the boundaries of accepted behavior" and "Chutzpah amounts to a total denial of personal responsibility, which renders others speechless and incredulous".

The term used to have a very negative connotation, but interestingly, Google says "usually used approvingly". It seems to fit pretty well the descriptions of the "rudeness" and "boldness" in common Israeli culture.


> It seems to fit pretty well the descriptions of the "rudeness" and "boldness" in common Israeli culture.

Also seems to be a pretty accurate description of SV/startup culture too...


> Like having snipers shooting at thousands of civilians, kids, journalists, paramedics, who are protesting inside their own borders.

Ugh... this is so myopic and sounds like you're intentionally not telling the truth.

all those "kids", "journalists", and "paramedics" were shown to be carrying bombs or other explosives.


Hm. All six thousand of them? Kids? Paramedics? Journalists? Do you have any sources for that?


I'd think the onus should be on you to prove that there were 6000 kid, paramedic and journalist deaths.

I'm not arguing that terrorists/soldiers/murders were killed, you are the one claiming that a reflective vest puts someone above the law.

On top of the 1000s of staged or edited photos/videos coming out of pallywood on a daily basis it's nearly impossible to take anyone making such claims seriously. as they are almost always full of misinformation/lies.


> the onus should be on you to prove that there were 6000 kid, paramedic and journalist deaths

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I didn't mean that all the people shot by snipers (not killed- just shot, usually in the legs and often causing permanent disabilities) were kids or paramedics or journalists. I was questioning your statement that "all ... were shown to be carrying bombs or other explosives". It's quite a categorical statement, and almost certainly wrong.


Ok... so again, show that there were 6000 kids, paramedics and journalists who were shot...

Also your unbridled hate for all things jewish kinda outs you as a biased party.


That is an amazing article.


Mikkens has a track record of writing stuff like that. It's worth hunting down and reading pretty much everything he's published.


classic Mickens. I just died laughing. thanks for making my day


I would have labeled the article a piece of defeatism disguised as satire, if not for this:

Security research is the continual process of discovering that your spaceship is a deathtrap. However, as John F. Kennedy once said, “SCREW IT WE’RE GOING TO THE MOON.” I cannot live my life in fear because someone named PhreakusMaximus at DefConHat 2014 showed that you can induce peanut allergies at a distance using an SMS message and a lock of your victim’s hair. If that’s how it is, I accept it and move on. Thinking about security is like thinking about where to ride your motorcycle: the safe places are no fun, and the fun places are not safe. I shall ride wherever my spirit takes me, and I shall find my Gigantic Martian Insect Party, and I will, uh, probably be rent asunder by huge cryptozoological mandibles, but I will die like Thomas Jefferson: free, defiant, and without a security label.

This I like.




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