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> You seem to think I was being nasty by suggesting your maths was subpar.

> maybe it's your understanding of the word 'prolific'

> maybe your maths doesn't suck, but if that's the case, you have a serious problem with reading comprehension

> you're just plain wrong

> Sorry if you don't like hearing that

> Ah hah! There! I knew you could do it! A valid point!

What's with the rampant condescension?

As far as that last "valid point", it's one that I stated awhile ago, and you've only addressed it now.

Look, I'm always willing to have an intelligent argument, but I'll defer a long discussion to when you're willing to make points without blatant fallacies. I'll offer this criticism:

Your latest example no longer talks about moderators. Ignoring this, if a poster averages 30 points per "post", this still falls back to points, and the idea of "popularity contests" and "vote when you agree" mentalities, which are _points_ Giles brought up in his post.




Sigh. Here's some helpful advice: when you're in a hole, stop digging!

> As far as that last "valid point", it's one that I stated awhile ago, and you've only addressed it now.

You did? I've just been back over your posts in this thread, and nowhere else do you mention moderators making (or not) submissions. But hey, I'll just add 'lacking honesty' to 'sucks at maths' and/or 'poor reading comprehension'.

> Your latest example no longer talks about moderators. Oh? how about this: "So, under the system I propose, is it the prolific poster, or the quality poster that gets moderater status? Well, seeing as my system works on averages, it's obviously the quality poster." This is the sort of thing that just makes you look silly. As I have previously said, either you have poor reading comprehension, or you're a liar - the evidence is there for all to see...

> Ignoring this, if a poster averages 30 points per "post", this still falls back to points, and the idea of "popularity contests" and "vote when you agree" mentalities, which are _points_ Giles brought up in his post.

Oh, here we go again; "but, but, you're disagreeing with Giles!". Yes, and what's your point exactly? I've already said that I disagree with Giles (twice before this post, but, hey, I'm happy to repeat myself if that'll help you). Apparently you're not terribly good at picking up on things that aren't explicitly stated (an even then!), so I'll explain.

Giles suggests that popularity contests (points systems) suck, because they are won by people that waste their time on blogs/news sites. I propose a system that keep points, but hopefully rewards quality rather than quantity of posting. Do you see what I have done there? I have attacked one of the assumptions of Giles' "Popularity contests suck" position - namely that popularity contests are always won by time-wasters, who generally speaking are not interesting people.

If you want to argue against my position, you need to demonstrate why my system won't correctly give voting rights to interesting people, or show why people that write interesting posts are not necessarily the best people to be deciding which other posts are interesting. Or maybe suggest a superior system that doesn't use points in any way.

What you can't do is simply repeat back to me Giles' position. I know what Giles' position is, he's been kind enough to write a big long entry on his blog to inform us all. Your repeated restating of his position, without adding anything new to the discussion, and completely failing to address any of the concerns I have raised is nothing other than good ol' fashioned trolling.

Look, what can I say. I suggest that you go back and read PG's essay on disagreeing again. Please note that he places a high value on actually addressing ideas presented in a post. Maybe you should try doing that rather than whinging about others being what you perceive to be condescending... When you start doing that, you'll be amazed by how quickly the condescending reponses disappear.


> Sigh. Here's some helpful advice: when you're in a hole, stop digging!

> But hey, I'll just add 'lacking honesty' to 'sucks at maths' and/or 'poor reading comprehension'.

> This is the sort of thing that just makes you look silly.

> either you have poor reading comprehension, or you're a liar - the evidence is there for all to see...

> Apparently you're not terribly good at picking up on things that aren't explicitly stated (an even then!)

> good ol' fashioned trolling


<shrug>

Well, at least there's a lot more sense there than in most of your posts :-)




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