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> The people having the real power in the EU are not elected (the European Commission).

Sigh, how many times do we have to confute this lie?

The real power is in the European Council, aka national governments assembled.

That's the body that sets the agenda. The Commission takes its marching orders from the Council, then goes to the Parliament to figure out what it will accept.

The Commission is a smokescreen, it's your national governments who desperately wanted this. They pushed and pushed until they got it, because it benefits the national press -- whose support they need for re-election. Commissioners don't care, their jobs have different rules.




except we pushed back and pushed back until they got us by outrage fatigue and honestly fuck that, democracy shouldn't require constant protests not we want to transform democracy into a mob rule

the issue is too much power too far from constituents and with little balances to prevent easy lobbying of few key people - it's basically broken at its core.

"just vote for different people next time"

yeah as if people don't say one thing and then do another. and once in power a rotation is simply too long, searching a candidate by trial and error to weed out the liars* would require a lifetime of committment, meanwhile the young generation would outweigh all the voting of those that have been keeping track of the politician scores by sheer demographic.

*spoiler alert: they all lie to some extent, or "compromise" if you prefer. but it's easy to fool voters on technical issues like these while gaining consensus with the popular topics of taxes, jobs and housing.


Is this fresh copypasta? It has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I’ll repeat: the problem lies with national governments asking for bad laws to be made, and then with MEPs for not voting them down (this one was very close, to be fair). That would have happened at any level. Do you know how many stupid decisions are taken at town-council level?

Democracy is difficult and imperfect, but it’s still the best we got.




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