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dup of http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1945112 (see discussion there)

Interesting to see that this submission made it to #3 while the original submission (same link - single page) isn't on the top page :)




This submission has a far better title that's aligned with the typical HN interests. It mentions Google and getting a business advantage.

Having seen people submit stories here with awful headlines and then wonder why they didn't take off so many times, it no longer surprises me that most people can't write good titles..


yes, this title is more catchy.

Yet, I'd say you're being unfair to the person who made the original submission. That person didn't "write" the title. They used the same title that the newspaper story has.

On a bad day, writing your own title (as is the case for this submission) can get you angry comments from readers. (That said, I personally agree with you that sometimes it makes sense to write your own title instead of using the title used by the newspaper )


i thought submissions weren't supposed to be "editorialized"


The guideline is: You can make up a new title if you want, but if you put gratuitous editorial spin on it, the editors may rewrite it.

Writing a title to better fit the gamut of HN interests without making it inaccurate/false/salacious isn't gratuitous and unlikely to be spin.


The original submission leads to an obnoxious NYT login form, while this one can be read freely.


  javascript:(function(){C=document.cookie.split(";%20");for(d="."+location.host;d;d=(""+d).substr(1).match(/\..*$/))for(sl=0;sl<2;++sl)for(p="/"+location.pathname;p;p=p.substring(0,p.lastIndexOf('/')))for(i%20in%20C)if(c=C[i]){document.cookie=c+";%20domain="+d.slice(sl)+";%20path="+p.slice(1)+"/"+";%20expires="+new%20Date((new%20Date).getTime()-1e11).toGMTString()};window.location.reload()})()


So clever - but you could also just (a) scroll to the bottom of the page and click "Single Page" link -- or click this link to save that extra effort: http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=705041&single=1&...


Noted! Thanks.


you only have to login once, you can do so for free, and the original version isn't spread over 19 (!) mobile formatted pages.




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