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The original HN post only has 23 votes and 11 comments! Good reminder that HN doesn't have to be crazy about your project for it to become successful.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=494649




Reminds me of the time when Bitcoin was first posted to Hacker News and only got 5 upvotes and 3 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=599852


It's amazing how those three comments still reflect the main opinions about crypto


"This is an absurd waste of energy" is missing.


It's not a waste of energy according to the miners who shell out for that energy.


Cool, but I think the first time it received a whopping nothing:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=463793


Says something about society's myopia. I need to research and synthetize history of projects like these. Invisible at first, diagonal .. and then booming. Mostly about people's inspiration and thinking process prior said project.


Booming and busting, don't forget.

(My job is advocating a cryptocurrency that enables privacy through technology, but I think that cryptocurrencies should be a quite small percentage — if any — of most people's investment portfolios.)


"there is absolutely no way that anyone is going to have any faith in this currency"


And Ezra jumps right in and writes the Ruby driver just from that post with almost no traction

Ezra was one of the good guys


RIP Ezra, he was very talented and loved to code and do computer stuff. You could read his excitement in his eyes and words.


Pretty much the same with Dropbox. Quite a few of the top voted comments were rather dismissive.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863


The top comment on Dropbox is classic. "I can simply replicate this with some sticky tape, bailing twine, wood off-cuts and parts salvaged from a few motorcycles, cars, traction engines and that old WW II bomber turret I have in my back yard. Why would anyone ever use their pre-packaged product instead?"


Indeed, a good reminder for the tech crowd that there's value in usability / accessibility for the general public.


There is value in that for everybody, including the "tech crowd".


The top comment is still true, though. If you have technical knowledge, you can get something better much cheaper.


That's a big "if" though, only a very small percentage of people can do that. And of those that can, do you want to? If someone solves this problem nicely, why invent your own solution? There are many other problems that are still unsolved, or not solved adequately...


Not sure that I agree... with a few referrals, I've got more room on the free tier and mostly just keep some encrypted zip files with 2fa backups and software serial numbers... there's a few other odds and ends as well (shell scripts for mac/lin/win).


Are you sure it will be better?


Depends on what exactly you want.

Dropbox has a fixed set of features, most people care about some other set, and there will be some intersection and some things that are needed that are outside of Dropbox feature set, that will need to be implemented by the user anyway (like encryption, automation, etc.). There will also be some things that will go against the user's use case, and compromise it.

So compared to Dropbox, having two external hard drives and using rsync regularly will get you way faster point in time backups, faster access in case of recovery, privacy, transparent encryption (that you'll not have to care about during access to files), no worries about losing access/account takeover, one-time fixed payment for the drive that will last you probably more than 5 years, instead of subscription (where you'll pay after 1 year more than you'd pay for the drive alone), etc.

Having always connected extra internal backup drives will also give you some other options. Like if you're a heavy user of PostgreSQL, you can setup cluster replication locally with synchronous replicas on different drives, and you'll have your databases backed up. Better than dropbox in this use case, too.

OTOH, if your use case is collaboration, Dropbox may be better. But if you include encrpytion of individual files you want to collaborate on, it may be again more cumbersome. I don't know.


> So compared to Dropbox, having two external hard drives and using rsync regularly will get you way faster point in time backups, faster access in case of recovery, privacy, transparent encryption (that you'll not have to care about during access to files), no worries about losing access/account takeover, one-time fixed payment for the drive that will last you probably more than 5 years, instead of subscription (where you'll pay after 1 year more than you'd pay for the drive alone), etc.

The fact that you think this list of inaccurate claims supports rather than refutes your original post suggests you should spend more time learning about what Dropbox does and calculating the operational overhead of supporting a homegrown solution. In particular, thinking about what ease of access means with an external drive could lead you to insights about correlated failure modes such as what happens when the same thief/power surge/accident takes your laptop and the drive sitting next to it, and you realize that if you’d used Dropbox you wouldn’t have lost more than a few seconds of work. Similarly, your scheme has no versioning, bitrot protection, etc. which people always discount until the first time they lose data.


I mean yeah, you are describing two vastly different products. People want ikea not a table saw.


Some may have misread that comment.


True, but there were a lot less people on hacker news 10 years ago (presumably)


I agree. It's difficult to compare, but for comparison:

2009> https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2009-02-25

One with 381 points, a few with 100 points, and it descends quite fast and the last few posts in the page have about 20 points.

2019> https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2019-02-25

Three with more than 400 points, many with 300/200/100 points, and only the last has less than 50 points.


No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.




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