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I think we’re splitting hairs here, but words matters, so I went ahead and changed the wording to make it clear what I’m saying.

My whole point is that modern diets are broken, lots of people are healing autoimmune conditions with therapeutic diets such as carnivory (or if you want a less strict but IMO less therapeutic autoimmune diet you can check out the autoimmune protocol — see Sarah Ballantyne’s The Paleo Approach).




You are still saying you "highly recommend." This is the thing I am objecting to.

The OP in no way asked for alternative remedies. They asked for info on how one might adequately access conventional treatment if they moved to the US, without breaking the bank.

It is inappropriate in that context to "recommend" alternative remedies at all for any reason.

A better approach -- if you absolutely feel compelled to butt into someone else's life and just cannot restrain yourself -- is to ask if they would be interested in alternative treatments and any hard data or good info you might have about such approaches. And if they don't say "yes," drop it rather than arguing endlessly with all comers about your right to promote a carnivore diet as some kind of cure-all for autoimmune disorders.

As stated previously: I have a serious condition. I happen to manage it with diet and lifestyle, which gets me called a nutter and given all kinds of headaches. Remarks and behavior of the sort your comments are engaging in are a huge headache for me because it is part of why I am treated so shittily when I want to try to have a reasoned discussion about such topics.

I would never pursue a carnivore diet. I generally eat less meat than the typical American. My current dietary approach is basically working miracles.


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so it's not surprise people don't ask.

And I suggested a methodology for trying to educate people that does not veer into the territory of making medical recommendations.

I don't intend to discuss this with you further. I will just leave this here as an FYI:

Please don't use Hacker News primarily for political or ideological battle. This destroys intellectual curiosity, and we ban accounts that do it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Wow, I find it interesting that you choose to stop debating the moment I ask a simple question about why you wouldn't consider carnivory. Your blog name really is appropriate, you are quite salty!

You believe that nutrition is an "ideology"? Jesus. It's a science, and I make no claim that it's 100% clear what the science shows (in fact most of it is corrupt), but I do believe people should treat themselves as n=1 experiments (your blog clearly shows that you treat yourself as such, much to your benefit it seems) -- and there is plenty of evidence that carnivore or at the very least an AIP diet greatly reduces or completely eliminates autoimmune conditions.

If you want to claim that the way people, lived largely disease free, for hundreds of thousands of years doesn't constitute any form of evidence, then I'm not really sure what to say.


Hi. Me, the guy you are recommending the diet to, here again.

Crohns is like not an issue dude. Compared to my other issue that I linked in the same post.

And a little citation needed on people living disease free for any extended period of time ;)


Pshhh this is the internet, which is all about side arguments with random people!

Small sample sizes but the fact that most went into complete remission is worthy of consideration

https://chriskresser.com/aip-for-ibd-the-paleo-autoimmune-pr...

Also check out some of the anecdotes here

http://meatheals.com/category/crohns-disease/

Hope things works out for you!




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