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And now you know why Google is _really_ shutting down Google+ earlier than planned. Someone should also take a look at Android, where there are some insane permissions available, like accessing your messages and call log. I wonder how much those have been abused by third parties far less trusted than e.g. Spotify. Granted, you have to consent to all of this crap, but 99% of users perceive this as a speed bump and click OK without reading, and the remaining 1% won't touch Android with a 10 foot pole after seeing one of those permission dialogs.



> And now you know why Google is _really_ shutting down Google+ earlier than planned.

You are implying that this was some deeply hidden motivation until now, but both of the announcements pretty directly attributed the shutdown (and accelerated shutdown) plans to security problems.


Looks like you know for a fact that an App on Android is somehow granted more permission compared to the same App in ios - without users knowing it.

Care to prove your blatant lie with some evidence, or you are just going to bash Google/Android because it's the thing to do on HN?


There's no way to get call log access or messages access on iOS. There's at least a dozen other insane permissions that exist (and are frequently requested by apps) on Android and don't exist on iOS. Is this sufficient "evidence" for you? Do you seriously believe that these Android permissions are never misused? Because there's easily discoverable evidence to the contrary. With a 1 billion+ installed base, I'd hope this would get much more scrutiny than it's getting.


If I'm understanding what Facebook did correctly, the Google equivalent would be that whenever you "Sign in with Google" to any website or app, that website/app gets full and permanent read/write access to your Gmail. Are you alleging that this is the case?


I believe you're misunderstanding the situation, and I don't blame you. I believe that when you log in with FB it'd bring up your typical permissions dialog that would say what permissions you're granting. Most people don't read these, and even fewer actually understand what they're really agreeing to.

Much like what you see on Android today: https://www.google.com/search?q=android+excessive+permission...


Ah the inevitable, "it's all Google's fault" reply.


I don't see how you could misconstrue my comment in this way, but what I meant to say is "Google should also receive scrutiny" for these very similar privacy issues. I don't think anyone can argue with this in good faith.


Seems to be only you that made that interpretation.




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