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It can be humanistic and nationalist at the same time. I think that's actually a good way of reconciling the common narrative you hear from either side.

It can be intended to spur creativity and innovation (and do so) while also being captured and circumscribed by different interests (in different ways over time).

This would include big identity-based interests, like nationality or ethnicity, that have been relevant in the history of this country (and every country).

It can be economically productive and unfair at the same time. So, do you work to make it more inclusive and target the benefits better? Or do you give it all up, the good with the bad?




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