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> the fact that we have FICO scores in America makes us just as bad, if not worse.

No, it makes us comparable. Not comparable like "we're the same". It makes us comparable like "we have something similar and let me show you some of the differences and correlations so that we might learn something".

> People have literally no idea how good they have it.

I think you're observing us focused on the bad and it makes you think we've lost sight of what's good.

> If they think everything is hell, why would they fight to protect it?

What right do we have to something which we do not wish to improve? How can we fight to improve if we do not discuss how it's bad and what could be done to resolve the problems? How can you resolve problems if you don't recognize them in the first place?




By that logic every country or organization or grouping of people in history is “comparable”.


You might be surprised to learn that there are entire disciplines of scholarship dedicated to comparing countries, organizations, and groupings of people.


Really?? Wow!

That doesn’t mean that they’re all “comparable” in any reasonable sense of the word.


What you find to be reasonable is not necessarily what others find to be reasonable. For a comparison: I find @danharaj's comment to be very reasonable.


Probably because they're agreeing with you and I'm disagreeing with you.

Is a small tribe of Native Americans in the 1400s "comparable" to the European Union in 2018?

Only in the sense that you can compare them, but then, you can compare anything, so literally anything is comparable in that sense, which robs the word of all meaning.


> Only in the sense that you can compare them, but then, you can compare anything, so literally anything is comparable in that sense, which robs the word of all meaning.

I think there's quite a bit more in common between a 1400's tribe and the EU than say, the star Polaris and trends of Swedish Cubism in the years 1950-1980.

The point here has always been that throwing up your hands and saying the original comparison is unreasonable is not a reasoned argument, it's flipping the table and walking off. The systems of social control in the United States and China are far more comparable than "anything to anything".




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