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Just watched "The Sea Inside" - a true story. It makes the case for suicide in a very moving manner. I believe that for anyone who stops to think about it, it is clear that there are other situations where there is suffering, and quite often there is no viable solution. Those who claim that there are always options better than death are naive (or intentionally harming others). I'm always amazed by the arguments they think up to defend their philosophical position.



People in this thread keep talking about suffering. I would like to disambiguate: suffering is not pain. Suffering is focusing on the pain and assuming that we should not have pain (and being lost in the idea that they should somehow be free of how they feel).

There is a lot of stuff about mental resiliency (and what to do with chronic pain - emotional and physical) that talks about how to deal with pain.

> quite often there is no viable solution.

There might not be a 'solution' to removing pain. Pain is a fact of life. Its what we do with it that matters.

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Nobody should be in chronic pain. Please do not conflate instances of pain with chronic pain.


I don't intend to be indifferent, but no one deserves anything. Not pain, not freedom from pain. This sort of entitlement is what leads to suffering.


A community or individual may hold values which include freedom from pain as an entitlement. Please don't impose pseudo-Buddhist misinterpretations on others.


I don't aim to impose, only address human existence ~and~ as it seems. Which includes pain.


suffering is not pain. Suffering is focusing on the pain ...Pain is a fact of life. Its what we do with it that matters.

This is the major insight of Buddhism, I think; that's not a bad summary of the Four Noble Truths.




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