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The article presents no evidence of that (much less the actual relevant comparison, which is whether government-run prisons in those same states would be better).

My evidence is not limited to the NYT article. Your original comment indicated that the profit motive always improves things. If true then for profit prisons ought to be an improvement to government run prisons. My belief based on working at prison and knowing some people who work at jails and having read a bit about the topic is that for profit prisons are not better than government prisons.

You further asked if prisoners are humanely treated in government run prisons in Illinois.

Are prisoners treated humanely in Illinois, where private prisons have been banned since 1990?

Prisoners in the U.S. are not humanely treated by either government run prisons or for profit prisons. Prisons are generally better run and more humane when run by government. It appeared your argument was that since government run prisons are still inhumane then for profit prisons are OK. I think that logic is bad. But I gather from what you wrote above that to you the question is whether or not the profit motive is what makes for profit prisons bad. My answer is yes given that the voting public in general does not want to fund humane prisons and that a for profit enterprise ought to run it cheaper than what government run prisons cost.

To me the question is one of betterment. Which system is better? Both are bad but one is worse than the other. That is what is germane to me. Pointing out government run prisons are bad is not relevant to the discussion if despite them being bad they are better than for profit prisons.




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