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There is hope for these, e.g. lifetime in C++20. Herb Sutter's talk at this same conference is really good and covers both of your first examples.



> Even the new proposal for them is very incomplete.

I agree with this assessment of the C++20 lifetimes stuff. It's great, it will probably catch a lot of bugs, but it doesn't catch the worst ones and that's where you need it the most.




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