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> So you will try to invent style definition system/language. And CSS will be born again.

If he arrives at QML then he will be doing something awesome.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QML




Yes! I never understood why QML didn't take off more...


Because many devs want to get paid without paying for the tools they use to sell their work.

Naturally with such culture one gets Electron instead.


Licensing issues? The situation around Qt licensing is still not clear, AFAIK.


It is pretty clear, want to give your work for free to others as you enjoy using Qt for free? Then give it away for free.

Want to earn money with the work from Qt devs? Give them something back to pay their bills.


> Want to earn money with the work from Qt devs? Give them something back to pay their bills.

that's absolutely not mandatory with Qt's license (though a nice thing to do). Besides, a non-negligible part of contributions to Qt aren't made by The Qt Company but by others such as KDAB, etc... which won't see a cent.


KDAB already earns their money selling Qt expertise and advocacy, which they contribute back to Qt community.

My point was about those that want to use Qt as free beer, don't contribute anything back and even feel entitled to complain on Qt Creator and Qt bug reports.


> Want to earn money with the work from Qt devs? Give them something back to pay their bills.

I found that the model is good but the problem is that the Qt commercial licenses are quite expensive. You would have to reach really far to find an example of a product with a greater per-developer cost.


Qt commercial licenses are pretty cheap when compared with traditional enterprise prices, which has become their target market, given that they are the only ones willing to pay for tools.


They are cheap compared to what? They are more expensive than the highest tier of Labview licensing (!), way more expensive than the highest tier of Visual Studio (MSDN) subscription, Adobe CS, AutoCAD... I'm not cherry picking, they're literally the most expensive subscription based commercial software I'm aware of.

What are they "pretty cheap" when compared to?


Oracle, SQL Server, SAP, WebSphere, Rational...

Qt more expensive than Visual Studio Ultimate?!?


Hopefully it's apparent because of the extremity of the comparisons being made here (a production SQL Server deployment is more expensive than a Qt seat, yes...) how high Qt's per-developer cost is today.

In my naivete I would have said a decade ago that a single author of traditional shareware-type stuff should just include their source code. After seeing what happened to the Paint.Net guy, people taking his work and just renaming it (as well as removing credit and license info) and reselling it, I'm afraid closed source is still the way to go if you want to not get ripped off while distributing Windows consumer software. So the high cost of the Qt license becomes relevant there.

It's fine, it's their right to price their software however they like, etc etc. It's just a scary commitment if you want to experiment with putting a small product out there.

> Qt more expensive than Visual Studio Ultimate?!?

They're just calling the top VS tier "Enterprise" now. The subscription version of VS Enterprise (which includes office and Windows all the way back to XP) is $3k a year now.


Qt more expensive than Visual Studio Ultimate?!?

Yup.


Seems pretty clear to me: https://www.qt.io/download

Most of it is licensed under LGPLv3, some under GPLv3, and there are commercial licenses available for almost all of it.




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