they have fork and spoon everywhere in Chinese restaurants, what can be hard to find it's knife
also most of Asia doesn't eat with chopsticks except few eastern Asian countries, heck whole southeast Asia it's fork+spoon for most of the dishes, it's just strange CN/JP/KR preference
well i lived there for years, honestly i don't have problem to eat with chopsticks, after all i think i am better with them than my wife who used them since birth, but spoon is quite usual item in any restaurant, forks maybe not that common though when i need them for visitors that always had them
after all you think all those instant noodles sold in shops are eaten with chopsticks instead folding fork which it's in package? it's not like fork it's some strange concept for Chinese. every Chinese eat instant noodles more or less, majority of them eat them often with fork (when on train or traveling elsewhere)
but yeah all dishes from food delivery are accompanied by cheap short bamboo chopsticks
> after all you think all those instant noodles sold in shops are eaten with chopsticks instead folding fork which it's in package
That's interesting, in Japan you get chopsticks with your instant noodles (although they're put in your bag by the check-out staff, not included in the package)
At any rate we can agree that the point has been made. It's not like you need some external factor (prove that the reason for this is the fact that Japan is an island, or any other thing.)
China doesn't need to be "drier" to make the Chinese wheelbarrow we're reading about more useful, with the idea that the wheelbarrow difference can be explained in full by the presence of mud in the west.
You don't need any difference like that. It can just be a cultural map of adoption, with no real reason for it.
That was my whole point! That the Chinese certainly know about it. All Americans and Europeans have easy access to chopsticks, too, and access to the knowledge to use them. Yet adoption is just different.
You just proved my point from the other direction, because in America ramen noodles certainly don't come with a fork, it's not how they're eaten.
>after all you think all those instant noodles sold in shops are eaten with chopsticks instead folding fork which it's in package? it's not like fork it's some strange concept for Chinese. every Chinese eat instant noodles more or less, majority of them eat them often with fork (when on train or traveling elsewhere)
If you look at how I started this thread, it was just as a counterexample to the poster bsder, so we can just stick to agreeing that the "same" or similar technologies see different maps of adoption for no real inherent reason. In America nobody eats ramen noodles with a fork, amd they never come with a fork.
also most of Asia doesn't eat with chopsticks except few eastern Asian countries, heck whole southeast Asia it's fork+spoon for most of the dishes, it's just strange CN/JP/KR preference