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> Cloudflare has at least promised not to be evil

Remember when Google did so, too? Then they bid on military contracts and bought a military contractor.




It may surprise you, but not everyone believes the military is evil, and thus working with them is evil.


Speaking for the US now (this is an outside view) but to me it looks like institutions such as the CIA or the NSA are indeed seen as evil by the majority of the public. Now, both the NSA and the CIA would mean nothing in the medium and long span of time if it weren’t for the power projected and often times actually exercised by the US military. As such, one can be forgiven for looking at the military as “bad”, if only for the fact that it “supports” bad institutions. Or, in other words, you cannot pick the “good guys” out of the military-industrial complex, to think otherwise is just self-delusion.


For me this comparison is seams false as it would work the same way if you replaced "military" with "US taxpayer".


Indeed, all us US taxpayers and, more importantly, citizens are complicity with the myriad heinous crimes of our government. They do them in our name, with our money, and in most cases with our vote.


OK, but I hope that you don't propose vilanizing any support helping US taxpayers because of it, as it was the purpose of the analogy to explore that. Are hospitals evil for providing healtcare to US citizens who are enabling NSA?


No, that's absurd.


Well, military's purpose is killing people. Now if that is evil or not of course depends on your beliefs.


Indeed. My choice of words there was deliberate and a subtle acknowledgement that such things can go awry over time.


Cloudfare engaged in censorship so they've already broken that promise.


But if they violate their promise to Mozilla, won't they be liable? And won't Mozilla have standing to sue?

What do you think damages would be if you violate a contract with Mozilla that puts millions of users at risk? (I wouldn't want to test that)

And won't they get caught during audits? Or at least risk it.


I don't really care about "promises" and contracts made between faceless corporations. I have no reason to trust Cloudflare or modern Mozilla, neither have I a reason to believe Mozilla would litigate against a breach of contract publicly instead of settling privately and secretly to prevent public outrage.


You trust Mozilla code, why not trust them to negotiate on your behalf?

Do you think you'll be able to negotiate a better solution on your own... If so, just change the defaults.


Refusing to host neo-Nazis might be inconsistent, but calling it "evil" is pushing it.


Censorship is evil, regardless of who it is directed against.




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